@atpfm @marcoarment I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well they designed it. Best interior for an electric car I’ve seen.

I love that they retained an analogue look and feel and kept physical buttons.

I think Jony really understood the assignment.

Having said that, 5 years development time seems extremely long….

@atpfm those coefficient of drag numbers for flush door handles must be wrong. Only source I can find is this article.

Flush door handles are the car industry’s latest safety problem

China considers banning retractable car door handles from 2027.

Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

But .01 is HUGE, not 1-2 miles. It’s 5% on a .20cd car!

New Model 3 Has

The facelifted Model 3 has the lowest absolute drag of any Tesla, and this has a major positive impact on the EV's efficiency and range ratings.

InsideEVs (insideevs.com)

@atpfm Excellent episode. Made me happy that my code writing days are long behind me.

@atpfm Not that I'm trying to talk @caseyliss into a Porsche, but I wouldn't worry about "replacing the battery" problems on EVs. All EV batteries are warrantied until 100K, probably lasts twice as long, and Casey will get another itch by then.

@atpfm good perspective on AI development from Grady Booch, he’s been doing a few podcasts recently e.g. https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-third-golden-age-of-software

@atpfm It's very strange to hear the comments about Daikin.

They are the worlds largest AC company by sales and are considered a premium brand, with great longevity and performance. I think half the houses on my street have a ducted Daikin system installed.

@atpfm Regarding @marcoarment 's cold weather/water leak woes, and YoLink's (current) lack of Matter/Thread. The "YoLink YS1606 Local Hub" is coming, perhaps by summer. Details here:
https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys1606
See also:
"They did it! Yolink built a local hub."
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1itni0l/they_did_it_yolink_built_a_local_hub/

@atpfm YoLink products have proven to be very helpful for tuning my HVAC (w/ claude.ai opus 4.6 assist).
https://tinkertry.com/tinkertry-2025-home-tech-refresh#:~:text=Yolink%20Temperature%2C%20Humidity%2C%20and%20Leak%20Detectors

@marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

@siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

@caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta If you replace the main one, I'd expect them to throw in a change of the smaller one too. $$$

@caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta I totally knew that John meant 12V and could tell nobody else picked that up

@caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

@siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having had to buy a couple in recent years (and watching some car builders on YouTube), I know the answer is “an upsetting amount more than you’re expecting”, regardless of currency

@WTL @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta Eh, with Porsche nothing is “thrown in”. Unless you count additional lines on the invoice.

@siracusa @caseyliss I got curious and looked it up. That had better be one hell of a battery!

@siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having replaced a 12v battery in a Macan Turbo I know I saved > $500 off dealer cost by borrowing a programmer from a friend to register the new self installed battery.

@siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta I did. Wow.

@siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta BMWs only fault in this is the non-standard posts they use. But you can easily add them to a normal 12V when the time comes.

@sjtrny @atpfm yup seemed like @marcoarment was saying Daikin was some cheap brand, I was astonished because in Australia it's the top performer, both in efficiency and reliability.