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  • Franklin Delano StalloneF Franklin Delano Stallone

    @atpfm I'm not disagreeing with anything said about AI and coding. It's unfortunate most people will end up with the wal-mart of products but I guess we're there already.

    I do believe the people that care about those ‘niche' things that were discussed, like memory management, do make better programs. The combination of arts (for UI) & that technical knowledge can make better programs. It's largely because we've train people to accept tolerable software that those things aren't appreciated.

    Franklin Delano StalloneF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @atpfm In an ideal world there would be stronger consumer protections so large companies can't just sling out something that barely works. As someone who uses Google software at work (Google apparently hires the best), I can say their software is basic at best. We should expect better especially given how important software is now but yes, that's not the case so yes we’ll make more experienced programmers more efficient with AI. Though lets see what happens once the AI training sources dry up.

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    • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

      678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
      https://atp.fm/678

      More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

      Benjamin GibbsB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @atpfm LoveFrom, are designing the exterior of the Luce too. I don’t think the standards of today’s Ferrari design are being considered. The vibe the press, Ferrari team and media are giving suggest Ferrari classics will be the inspiration. Both Ive and Newson have openly professed their love for their 60’s Ferraris and I can envision Ferrari’s history forming the foundation of the Luce project. The interior gives a 60’s-80’s Ferrari energy seen through a Newson 1999 Ford lense.

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      • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

        678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
        https://atp.fm/678

        More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

        ReidR This user is from outside of this forum
        ReidR This user is from outside of this forum
        Reid
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        #7

        @atpfm
        I love how much @siracusa knows about cars while not personally partaking in the hobby.

        RE: @caseyliss “having the length"...
        @marcoarment says the i4 m40 is "probably faster than the Golf". Probably? PROBABLY? It's a rocket ship compared to the Golf. Our 2018 RWD LR Model 3 (250hp?) is almost certainly faster 0-60 than my former 2016 6MT Golf R. The immediate power is just insane, and even after almost 8 years, it _still_ feels fast, every time I drive it. The BMW, with 100 more HP, would just destroy both. (that said, the i4 leaves me cold, as it gets a lot of things wrong, like so many "legacy" automakers do with EVs)

        John's right, the back seat on the Taycan is tragically small and hard to get into. Even the front seat is shockingly low and difficult to get into, and I own a Boxster on sport suspension. I expected the Taycan to be like any other sporty sedan but it's much more like a sports car with a token rear seat. The ingress to the rear is .. not easy. (but probably fine for kids!)

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        • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

          678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
          https://atp.fm/678

          More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

          0xBEE 🇦🇺0 This user is from outside of this forum
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          0xBEE 🇦🇺
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          #8

          @atpfm just me or is the latest episode not showing up in the member feed?

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          • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

            678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
            https://atp.fm/678

            More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

            Daniel GomesD This user is from outside of this forum
            Daniel GomesD This user is from outside of this forum
            Daniel Gomes
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            #9

            @atpfm @marcoarment I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well they designed it. Best interior for an electric car I’ve seen.

            I love that they retained an analogue look and feel and kept physical buttons.

            I think Jony really understood the assignment.

            Having said that, 5 years development time seems extremely long….

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            • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

              678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
              https://atp.fm/678

              More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

              ReidR This user is from outside of this forum
              ReidR This user is from outside of this forum
              Reid
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              #10

              @atpfm those coefficient of drag numbers for flush door handles must be wrong. Only source I can find is this article.

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              Flush door handles are the car industry’s latest safety problem

              China considers banning retractable car door handles from 2027.

              favicon

              Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

              But .01 is HUGE, not 1-2 miles. It’s 5% on a .20cd car!

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              New Model 3 Has

              The facelifted Model 3 has the lowest absolute drag of any Tesla, and this has a major positive impact on the EV's efficiency and range ratings.

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              InsideEVs (insideevs.com)

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              • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

                678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                https://atp.fm/678

                More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

                SwampYankeeS This user is from outside of this forum
                SwampYankeeS This user is from outside of this forum
                SwampYankee
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                #11

                @atpfm Excellent episode. Made me happy that my code writing days are long behind me.

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                • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

                  678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                  https://atp.fm/678

                  More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

                  Marcos HuertaM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Marcos HuertaM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Marcos Huerta
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                  #12

                  @atpfm Not that I'm trying to talk @caseyliss into a Porsche, but I wouldn't worry about "replacing the battery" problems on EVs. All EV batteries are warrantied until 100K, probably lasts twice as long, and Casey will get another itch by then.

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                  • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

                    678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                    https://atp.fm/678

                    More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

                    mikesuszM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mikesuszM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @atpfm good perspective on AI development from Grady Booch, he’s been doing a few podcasts recently e.g. https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-third-golden-age-of-software

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                    • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

                      678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                      https://atp.fm/678

                      More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

                      Stephen TierneyS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Stephen TierneyS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Stephen Tierney
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                      #14

                      @atpfm It's very strange to hear the comments about Daikin.

                      They are the worlds largest AC company by sales and are considered a premium brand, with great longevity and performance. I think half the houses on my street have a ducted Daikin system installed.

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                      • Accidental Tech PodcastA Accidental Tech Podcast

                        678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                        https://atp.fm/678

                        More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

                        Paul BrarenP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Paul BrarenP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Paul Braren
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                        #15

                        @atpfm Regarding @marcoarment 's cold weather/water leak woes, and YoLink's (current) lack of Matter/Thread. The "YoLink YS1606 Local Hub" is coming, perhaps by summer. Details here:
                        https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys1606
                        See also:
                        "They did it! Yolink built a local hub."
                        https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1itni0l/they_did_it_yolink_built_a_local_hub/

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                        • Paul BrarenP Paul Braren

                          @atpfm Regarding @marcoarment 's cold weather/water leak woes, and YoLink's (current) lack of Matter/Thread. The "YoLink YS1606 Local Hub" is coming, perhaps by summer. Details here:
                          https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys1606
                          See also:
                          "They did it! Yolink built a local hub."
                          https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1itni0l/they_did_it_yolink_built_a_local_hub/

                          Paul BrarenP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Paul BrarenP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Paul Braren
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                          #16

                          @atpfm YoLink products have proven to be very helpful for tuning my HVAC (w/ claude.ai opus 4.6 assist).
                          https://tinkertry.com/tinkertry-2025-home-tech-refresh#:~:text=Yolink%20Temperature%2C%20Humidity%2C%20and%20Leak%20Detectors

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                          • Marcos HuertaM Marcos Huerta

                            @atpfm Not that I'm trying to talk @caseyliss into a Porsche, but I wouldn't worry about "replacing the battery" problems on EVs. All EV batteries are warrantied until 100K, probably lasts twice as long, and Casey will get another itch by then.

                            John SiracusaS This user is from outside of this forum
                            John SiracusaS This user is from outside of this forum
                            John Siracusa
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                            #17

                            @marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

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                            • John SiracusaS John Siracusa

                              @marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

                              Casey LissC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #18

                              @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

                              WTLW Ezekiel :swift:E John SiracusaS yertle@mastodon.cloudY 4 Replies Last reply
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                              • Casey LissC Casey Liss

                                @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

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                                @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta If you replace the main one, I'd expect them to throw in a change of the smaller one too. $$$

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                                • Casey LissC Casey Liss

                                  @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

                                  Ezekiel :swift:E This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta I totally knew that John meant 12V and could tell nobody else picked that up

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                                  • Casey LissC Casey Liss

                                    @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

                                    John SiracusaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

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                                    • John SiracusaS John Siracusa

                                      @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

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                                      JoeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having had to buy a couple in recent years (and watching some car builders on YouTube), I know the answer is “an upsetting amount more than you’re expecting”, regardless of currency

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                                      • WTLW WTL

                                        @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta If you replace the main one, I'd expect them to throw in a change of the smaller one too. $$$

                                        David CohenD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @WTL @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta Eh, with Porsche nothing is “thrown in”. Unless you count additional lines on the invoice.

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                                        • John SiracusaS John Siracusa

                                          @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

                                          Matias KorhonenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Matias Korhonen
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                                          @siracusa @caseyliss I got curious and looked it up. That had better be one hell of a battery!

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