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‘Apple today announced a transformative update coming to Apple Podcasts this spring that will bring advanced video podcast capabilities to the app.

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  • John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    ‘Apple today announced a transformative update coming to Apple Podcasts this spring that will bring advanced video podcast capabilities to the app. This enhanced video podcast experience uses Apple’s industry-leading HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology’

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    Apple today announced a transformative update coming to Apple Podcasts this spring that will bring advanced video podcast capabilities to the app.

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    • John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      weak sauce - but it makes sense given that Apple is receiving a video from the hosting provider and HLSifying it and hosting it themselves, and they don't own the RSS feed

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      • Alex Barredo 📉B This user is from outside of this forum
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        @js what a weird choice the API thing... why not just RSS?

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        • John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @manton agreed

          they are hosting and taking a cut of ad impressions

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          • Alex Barredo 📉B This user is from outside of this forum
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            @js ohhhh, yeah. I can see that happening...

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            • Alex Barredo 📉B This user is from outside of this forum
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              @manton @js but will they host the videos (a future huge can of worms for Apple) or just manage the HLS requests?

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              • Alex Barredo 📉B Alex Barredo 📉

                @manton @js but will they host the videos (a future huge can of worms for Apple) or just manage the HLS requests?

                John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Barredo @manton

                unclear, they are starting with only 4 partners

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                • John SpurlockJ John Spurlock

                  weak sauce - but it makes sense given that Apple is receiving a video from the hosting provider and HLSifying it and hosting it themselves, and they don't own the RSS feed

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                  easiest way to think about Apple's HLS video at the moment is like Apple premium content

                  host uploads to them, they host it, not available at all to third party players or represented in the RSS feed at all

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                  • John SpurlockJ John Spurlock

                    easiest way to think about Apple's HLS video at the moment is like Apple premium content

                    host uploads to them, they host it, not available at all to third party players or represented in the RSS feed at all

                    Bryan EntzmingerB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @js That was my thought as well. I was really hoping for alt enclosure.

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                    • John SpurlockJ John Spurlock

                      easiest way to think about Apple's HLS video at the moment is like Apple premium content

                      host uploads to them, they host it, not available at all to third party players or represented in the RSS feed at all

                      John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      even better, it's kind of like a "private alternate enclosure"

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                      • DaveD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @js Yes. They've been very consistent lately with their support of the open way of doing things. Even when it was a totally thrown in cherry on top. It'll happen.

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                        • Alex MarkleyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @js maybe I'm just turning cynical, but I have zero hope that Apple will adopt an open alternative here. It would be so easy to offer an alternative enclosure tag with an HLS link, but that's not the direction they went.

                          Spotify and YouTube are doing the same thing.

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                            @js @dave if the HLS stream downloadable like any mp3? Does this allow saving the video file for archiving and offline playing?

                            If not, it should not be named podcast and not ve implemented in podcast apps.

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                              @js @dave I’m inclined to believe Apple will never open up anything to anyone anymore. On the one hand, they’re hosting the videos so they can argue that’s to make the experience better.

                              On the other hand for each ad spot served they get services revenue which is their only growth. Don’t expect openness when it would reduce revenue.

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                                @js @dave if the HLS stream downloadable like any mp3? Does this allow saving the video file for archiving and offline playing?

                                If not, it should not be named podcast and not ve implemented in podcast apps.

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                                @lutindiscret @js @dave HLS can be set to download/offline

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                                • Pierre-Luc GagnéP Pierre-Luc Gagné

                                  @js @dave I’m inclined to believe Apple will never open up anything to anyone anymore. On the one hand, they’re hosting the videos so they can argue that’s to make the experience better.

                                  On the other hand for each ad spot served they get services revenue which is their only growth. Don’t expect openness when it would reduce revenue.

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                                  @pl @js I don’t think it’s that simple. If the only thing that mattered to Apple was revenue, they would’ve never supported podcasting in the first place, since for most of its existence, Apple never made a dime off podcasting.

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                                    @pl @js I don’t think it’s that simple. If the only thing that mattered to Apple was revenue, they would’ve never supported podcasting in the first place, since for most of its existence, Apple never made a dime off podcasting.

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                                    @lutindiscret @js @dave HLS can be set to download/offline

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                                    @js @dave I’m inclined to believe Apple will never open up anything to anyone anymore. On the one hand, they’re hosting the videos so they can argue that’s to make the experience better.

                                    On the other hand for each ad spot served they get services revenue which is their only growth. Don’t expect openness when it would reduce revenue.

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