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  • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

    Erin, OSHA DenialistE This user is from outside of this forum
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    Erin, OSHA Denialist
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    @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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    • manchickenM manchicken

      @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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      Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️
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      #21

      @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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      • Erin, OSHA DenialistE Erin, OSHA Denialist

        @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

        David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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        David W. Jones
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        #22

        @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

          ananasA This user is from outside of this forum
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          ananas
          wrote last edited by
          #23

          @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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          • ananasA ananas

            @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

            David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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            David W. Jones
            wrote last edited by
            #24

            @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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            • SammiejC Sammiej

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

              John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              John_Loader
              wrote last edited by
              #25

              @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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              • SammiejC Sammiej

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jacobgorm
                wrote last edited by
                #26

                @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                • SammiejC Sammiej

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Michael Jenkins
                  wrote last edited by
                  #27

                  @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                    Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Paco Hope
                    wrote last edited by
                    #28

                    @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                    • Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️

                      @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

                      manchickenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      manchicken
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                      #29

                      @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                        joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        joat
                        wrote last edited by
                        #30

                        @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                          @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                          One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                          Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                          MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
                          MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mercutio
                          wrote last edited by
                          #31

                          @dancingtreefrog
                          Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                          @capitainesam

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                          • SammiejC Sammiej

                            When your password leaks:
                            → Change your password
                            → Problem solved

                            When your biometric data leaks:
                            → You can't change your face
                            → You can't change your fingerprints
                            → The compromise is permanent
                            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                            RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                            RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                            René
                            wrote last edited by
                            #32

                            @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                            • SammiejC Sammiej

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                              SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                              SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                              Sammiej
                              wrote last edited by
                              #33

                              🧵 So what can you do about it?

                              Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                              More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                              Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                              • SammiejC Sammiej

                                🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                Here's what I'm doing about it:

                                SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sammiej
                                wrote last edited by
                                #34

                                I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                ❌ Facial recognition
                                ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                • SammiejC Sammiej

                                  I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                  ❌ Facial recognition
                                  ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                  ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                  Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Sammiej
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #35

                                  Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                  No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                  No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                  No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                  Simple.

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                                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                                    Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                    No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                    No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                    No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                    Simple.

                                    SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Sammiej
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #36

                                    We're launching March 2026.

                                    Features:
                                    ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                    ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                    ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                    ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                    ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                                      We're launching March 2026.

                                      Features:
                                      ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                      ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                      ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                      ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                      ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

                                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Sammiej
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #37

                                      If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                                      Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                                      Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                                      👉 https://snugg.social

                                      No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                                      • jacobgormJ jacobgorm

                                        @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

                                        lp0 on fire :unverified:L This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        lp0 on fire :unverified:
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #38

                                        @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                                        “Profile photo”

                                        “We all”

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                                        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                                          @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

                                          DźwiedziuD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Dźwiedziu
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #39

                                          @dancingtreefrog
                                          This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
                                          https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

                                          Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

                                          @capitainesam

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