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  • SammiejC Sammiej

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    Negative12DollarBillN This user is from outside of this forum
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    Negative12DollarBill
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    @capitainesam

    > You can't change your face

    Not with that attitude

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    • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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      vrek
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      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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      • SammiejC Sammiej

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        Simon Zerafa (Status: :no_AI_logo: :catthink: 😊)S This user is from outside of this forum
        Simon Zerafa (Status: :no_AI_logo: :catthink: 😊)S This user is from outside of this forum
        Simon Zerafa (Status: :no_AI_logo: :catthink: 😊)
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        #13

        @capitainesam

        Just say No to Biometric Identity Verification 🙂🖖

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        • V vrek

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

          David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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          David W. Jones
          wrote last edited by
          #14

          @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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          • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

            @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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            vrek
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            #15

            @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam hmm... I read that too but same as you it's been over a decade, might be time for a re-read

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            • SammiejC Sammiej

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

              HTPC NZH This user is from outside of this forum
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              HTPC NZ
              wrote last edited by
              #16

              @capitainesam until you start abusing billionaires biometric data, nothing will ever happen... Even then only use of theirs will be quickly outlawed.

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              • SammiejC Sammiej

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                Jon ClausenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jon ClausenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jon Clausen
                wrote last edited by
                #17

                @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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                • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

                  @capitainesam

                  > You can't change your face

                  Not with that attitude

                  Princess Serena Star ✨S This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Princess Serena Star ✨
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                  @capitainesam@mastodon.social @negative12dollarbill@techhub.social yeah, easy. just get plastic surgery, duhhhhh /j

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                  • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

                    @capitainesam

                    > You can't change your face

                    Not with that attitude

                    Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Richard Webb
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                    #19

                    @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

                    Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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                    • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                      Erin, OSHA DenialistE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Erin, OSHA Denialist
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                      #20

                      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                      • manchickenM manchicken

                        @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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                        Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️
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                        #21

                        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                        • Erin, OSHA DenialistE Erin, OSHA Denialist

                          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

                          David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          David W. Jones
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                          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                          • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                            @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                            ananas
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                            #23

                            @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                            • ananasA ananas

                              @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

                              David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              David W. Jones
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                              #24

                              @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                              • SammiejC Sammiej

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                John_Loader
                                wrote last edited by
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                                @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                                • SammiejC Sammiej

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jacobgorm
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #26

                                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                    Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Michael Jenkins
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #27

                                    @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                      Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Paco Hope
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                                      #28

                                      @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                                      • Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️

                                        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

                                        manchickenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        manchicken
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #29

                                        @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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                                        • SammiejC Sammiej

                                          When your password leaks:
                                          → Change your password
                                          → Problem solved

                                          When your biometric data leaks:
                                          → You can't change your face
                                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                                          → The compromise is permanent
                                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                          joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          joat
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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