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  • SammiejC Sammiej

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    jacobgorm
    wrote last edited by
    #26

    @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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    • SammiejC Sammiej

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

      Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
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      Michael Jenkins
      wrote last edited by
      #27

      @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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      • SammiejC Sammiej

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
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        Paco Hope
        wrote last edited by
        #28

        @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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        • Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️

          @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

          manchickenM This user is from outside of this forum
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          manchicken
          wrote last edited by
          #29

          @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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          • SammiejC Sammiej

            When your password leaks:
            → Change your password
            → Problem solved

            When your biometric data leaks:
            → You can't change your face
            → You can't change your fingerprints
            → The compromise is permanent
            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

            joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
            joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
            joat
            wrote last edited by
            #30

            @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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            • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

              @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

              One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

              Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

              MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
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              Mercutio
              wrote last edited by
              #31

              @dancingtreefrog
              Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

              @capitainesam

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              • SammiejC Sammiej

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                René
                wrote last edited by
                #32

                @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                • SammiejC Sammiej

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Sammiej
                  wrote last edited by
                  #33

                  🧵 So what can you do about it?

                  Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                  More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                  Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                    🧵 So what can you do about it?

                    Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                    More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                    Here's what I'm doing about it:

                    SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Sammiej
                    wrote last edited by
                    #34

                    I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                    ❌ Facial recognition
                    ❌ Fingerprint scans
                    ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                    Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                      I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                      ❌ Facial recognition
                      ❌ Fingerprint scans
                      ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                      Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Sammiej
                      wrote last edited by
                      #35

                      Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                      No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                      No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                      No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                      Simple.

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                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                        Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                        No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                        No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                        No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                        Simple.

                        SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Sammiej
                        wrote last edited by
                        #36

                        We're launching March 2026.

                        Features:
                        ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                        ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                        ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                        ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                        ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                        • SammiejC Sammiej

                          We're launching March 2026.

                          Features:
                          ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                          ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                          ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                          ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                          ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

                          SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                          SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Sammiej
                          wrote last edited by
                          #37

                          If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                          Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                          Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                          👉 https://snugg.social

                          No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                          • jacobgormJ jacobgorm

                            @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

                            lp0 on fire :unverified:L This user is from outside of this forum
                            lp0 on fire :unverified:L This user is from outside of this forum
                            lp0 on fire :unverified:
                            wrote last edited by
                            #38

                            @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                            “Profile photo”

                            “We all”

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                            • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                              @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

                              DźwiedziuD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Dźwiedziu
                              wrote last edited by
                              #39

                              @dancingtreefrog
                              This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
                              https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

                              Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

                              @capitainesam

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                              • SammiejC Sammiej

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                ℂ𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕖@world: /# :blinking_cursor:C This user is from outside of this forum
                                ℂ𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕖@world: /# :blinking_cursor:C This user is from outside of this forum
                                ℂ𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕖@world: /# :blinking_cursor:
                                wrote last edited by
                                #40

                                @capitainesam One of the 1.000.000.000 reasons.

                                Same with ID. It has a biometric photo on it. If scanned accurately, it can, AND WILL, be used to identify you.

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                                • DanI Dan

                                  @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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                                  ℂ𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕥𝕖@world: /# :blinking_cursor:
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #41

                                  @ill_logic @jfml @capitainesam every proper implementation hashes the fingerprint, just like you don't store clear text passwords in the shadow file...

                                  The question is, is this a proper implementation on phones...

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                                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                    Cédric LevasseurC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Cédric LevasseurC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Cédric Levasseur
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #42

                                    @capitainesam I don't think it's true.
                                    If I compare to SSH keys. My face is the password of my private key.
                                    Generating another private key with the same password is still possible and it's a different key.

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                                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                      Jake in the desertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jake in the desertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jake in the desert
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #43

                                      @capitainesam the ultimate argument against the stupidity of moving away from just using passwords. All this biometric stuff can go take a leap. I'll never use any of it.

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                                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                                        Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                        No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                        No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                        No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                        Simple.

                                        CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Charles
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #44

                                        @capitainesam

                                        Won't the law require you to to biometric ID?

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                                        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                                          @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                                          One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                                          Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                                          skaphle
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #45

                                          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam GrapheneOS supports a pin as second factor for biometrics

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