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  • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

    @capitainesam

    > You can't change your face

    Not with that attitude

    Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Richard Webb
    wrote last edited by
    #19

    @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

    Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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    • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

      Erin, OSHA DenialistE This user is from outside of this forum
      Erin, OSHA DenialistE This user is from outside of this forum
      Erin, OSHA Denialist
      wrote last edited by
      #20

      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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      • manchickenM manchicken

        @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

        Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T This user is from outside of this forum
        Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T This user is from outside of this forum
        Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️
        wrote last edited by
        #21

        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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        • Erin, OSHA DenialistE Erin, OSHA Denialist

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

          David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
          David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
          David W. Jones
          wrote last edited by
          #22

          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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          • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

            @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

            ananasA This user is from outside of this forum
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            ananas
            wrote last edited by
            #23

            @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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            • ananasA ananas

              @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

              David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
              David W. JonesD This user is from outside of this forum
              David W. Jones
              wrote last edited by
              #24

              @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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              • SammiejC Sammiej

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                John_Loader
                wrote last edited by
                #25

                @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                • SammiejC Sammiej

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jacobgorm
                  wrote last edited by
                  #26

                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                    Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Michael Jenkins
                    wrote last edited by
                    #27

                    @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                      When your password leaks:
                      → Change your password
                      → Problem solved

                      When your biometric data leaks:
                      → You can't change your face
                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                      → The compromise is permanent
                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                      Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      Paco Hope
                      wrote last edited by
                      #28

                      @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                      • Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️

                        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

                        manchickenM This user is from outside of this forum
                        manchickenM This user is from outside of this forum
                        manchicken
                        wrote last edited by
                        #29

                        @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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                        • SammiejC Sammiej

                          When your password leaks:
                          → Change your password
                          → Problem solved

                          When your biometric data leaks:
                          → You can't change your face
                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                          → The compromise is permanent
                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                          joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          joat
                          wrote last edited by
                          #30

                          @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                          • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                            @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                            One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                            Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                            MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
                            MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
                            Mercutio
                            wrote last edited by
                            #31

                            @dancingtreefrog
                            Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                            @capitainesam

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                            • SammiejC Sammiej

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                              RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                              RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                              René
                              wrote last edited by
                              #32

                              @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                              • SammiejC Sammiej

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sammiej
                                wrote last edited by
                                #33

                                🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                • SammiejC Sammiej

                                  🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                  Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                  More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                  Here's what I'm doing about it:

                                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Sammiej
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #34

                                  I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                  ❌ Facial recognition
                                  ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                  ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                  Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                                    I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                    ❌ Facial recognition
                                    ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                    ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                    Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                                    SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Sammiej
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #35

                                    Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                    No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                    No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                    No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                    Simple.

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                                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                                      Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                      No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                      No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                      No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                      Simple.

                                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Sammiej
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #36

                                      We're launching March 2026.

                                      Features:
                                      ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                      ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                      ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                      ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                      ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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                                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                                        We're launching March 2026.

                                        Features:
                                        ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                        ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                        ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                        ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                        ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

                                        SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Sammiej
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #37

                                        If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

                                        Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

                                        Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
                                        👉 https://snugg.social

                                        No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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                                        • jacobgormJ jacobgorm

                                          @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

                                          lp0 on fire :unverified:L This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lp0 on fire :unverified:L This user is from outside of this forum
                                          lp0 on fire :unverified:
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #38

                                          @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

                                          “Profile photo”

                                          “We all”

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