@sennoma @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

but it's even worse than that because most of the world uses red for left and blue for right

so any non-american viewing this will be confused about what is being said here

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Heh, I'm so used to the US system that I didn't even notice the colours.

@benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox I spend more time than I’d like pondering this. Is it not obvious that to win, we must form coalitions of people who font 100% agree on every issue, or are there a ton of fake personas online focused on dividing the left?

@sennoma @benroyce @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Anyone who thinks the Right is unified has never spent time reading Right side forums.

They are always arguing with each other and complaining about a lack of unity.

And they see the Left as a united horde.

Every movement looks unified from the outside, and chaotic from the inside.

@swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

well there is division on the right too

the problem is that gets all papered over because they have a huge brainwashed mindless MAGA cult

division is inescapable. division is normal

it's just in our current time the natural (and unnatural) division on the left vs the manufactured unity on the right based on appeals to the bigotry that has always been with us, all funded by plutocrat controlled media, is a huge problem

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 It still possible, though. Folk are choosing stupid. @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox this is bullshit. Racism is not manufactured by plutocrats. It has dominated Western culture for centuries before Adolf Hitler was born. It heavily infests the US left as well.

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox righties are not brainwashed. They're a$$holes. They are willfully evil, horrible people and they know it.

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

i apologize for the misunderstanding

bigotry has always been with us

i would say that with social media and right wing media they have been doing gangbusters uniting the bigots in political cohesion like never before

i edited my comment to be more clear

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox no. I remember when conservatives united to repeatedly beat, arrested and shot at MLK. I remember the day they succeeded when he was 39 yrs old. There's nothing happening here that wasn't far worse back in them good old days a$$holes(not brainwashed ppl) call #MAGA.

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

again i completely agree with you

but also then plenty of these fuckwit bigots were in the democratic party while the racist dixiecrats were still busy migrating to the GOP

and there's still bigots in the democrats today

but the political unity of the GOP as the party of bigots is now a much stronger signal

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox yes, the GOP is far less diverse. But its diversity is increasing fast. 25% of Trump's voters were nonwhite, a new GOP high since the Great Depression. I don't know that that means disunity. They are united around Nazi eugenics. There's a LOT of self-loathing among PoC unfortunately, particularly non-blacks.

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

i would say the bigotry has always been there, yes

but i would say that plutocrat funded methods for aligning the bigots to plutocrat agendas is a well-oiled machine

a plutocrat-bigot political axis

not that plutocrats are creating bigots, no that's not what i mean

i mean plutocrats working over these shitbags for devotion with simple cons only morons fall for by appealing to their ignorant hate

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

agreed

and tokens need to understand that tokens get spent

@mike805 @sennoma @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

i disagree

of course there is some disunity on the right as well

but what the right has that the left does not is this absolutely devoted, absolutely fucking stupid and mindless, MAGA cult of zombies who fervently show up to vote and fervently obey their plutocrat masters

that's a huge problem

@jonesmurphy @benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

A couple days ago the big news was by a small margin more Whites disapproved of Trump. Imagine that. About 50% of Whites, after all that has transpired, still support this guy. That pretty much says it all.

@benroyce @CStamp @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The facts of reality and practice show that "anyone with a brain" does in fact, not understand that whole thing you put after defund the police. If yr not in a left feedback loop (as most voters are not) when would you be exposed to that? You won't be. Therefore it's a dumb slogan, a failed meme.

@Scrimshaw9 @CStamp @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

it's not hard to make better either

"why don't we relieve the police of having to respond to mental health scenarios by taking some of that funding and providing more mental health services"

for example

it's the same message that can appeal to an average person while making it difficult for lying right wing media by blocking any easy inroads to smear the message

@CStamp Sort of yeah, they are "policing equipment" not wage war equipment. I wouldn't say most either, but certainly a lot are more equipt than small nations. The way it works is a lot of municipalities gutted their tax base in the 80s and 90s letting factories etc go to Asia/global south so to make up for that they rely on fines and bc of that the police have an increased roll in the govt and therefore can make demands fr equipment/ larger piece of the budget.

@mike805 @sennoma @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox