@Scrimshaw9 @CStamp @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

i understand "defund the police" means divert funds to mental healthcare and people without housing. anyone with a brain understands this

but your average walnut brained american thinks it means no police and rampant crime. they conclude the left wants rampant crime. if they don't think that, right wing media certainly will manufacture lying outrage and make them think that

so yeah, messaging is a problem on the left

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 Most US police departments are better equipped than armies of some countries, aren’t they? @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

@CStamp @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

yeah

it's ridiculous

it's not policing it's occupation military

of course the funding for that should disappear and be diverted to housing and healthcare

but try convincing the average american of that when right wing media brainwashes them to think the left wants rampant crime

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 It is so easy to fact check that crap these days. Wilful ignorance us the worst kind of ignorance. @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

@Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

the essential problem on the left

i didn't say with the left, because some of this infighting is achieved with agent provocateurs and right wingers cosplaying because it's so easy. but, yes, some of it is organic to the left

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox I feel as though I must be missing something... shouldn't that image be flipped so that the left is on the, well, left?

@sennoma @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

but it's even worse than that because most of the world uses red for left and blue for right

so any non-american viewing this will be confused about what is being said here

@maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

it's so prevalent and so obvious it has to be a psyop from the right

of course some people are just that foolish

@benroyce @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Heh, I'm so used to the US system that I didn't even notice the colours.

@benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox I spend more time than I’d like pondering this. Is it not obvious that to win, we must form coalitions of people who font 100% agree on every issue, or are there a ton of fake personas online focused on dividing the left?

@CStamp @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

well i have good news for you!

the fascists are working hard to remove your ability to fact check

(/s)

@swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

well there is division on the right too

the problem is that gets all papered over because they have a huge brainwashed mindless MAGA cult

division is inescapable. division is normal

it's just in our current time the natural (and unnatural) division on the left vs the manufactured unity on the right based on appeals to the bigotry that has always been with us, all funded by plutocrat controlled media, is a huge problem

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox this is bullshit. Racism is not manufactured by plutocrats. It has dominated Western culture for centuries before Adolf Hitler was born. It heavily infests the US left as well.

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox this is bullshit. Racism is not manufactured by plutocrats. It has dominated Western culture for centuries before Adolf Hitler was born. It heavily infests the US left as well.

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

i apologize for the misunderstanding

bigotry has always been with us

i would say that with social media and right wing media they have been doing gangbusters uniting the bigots in political cohesion like never before

i edited my comment to be more clear

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox no. I remember when conservatives united to repeatedly beat, arrested and shot at MLK. I remember the day they succeeded when he was 39 yrs old. There's nothing happening here that wasn't far worse back in them good old days a$$holes(not brainwashed ppl) call #MAGA.

@jonesmurphy @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

again i completely agree with you

but also then plenty of these fuckwit bigots were in the democratic party while the racist dixiecrats were still busy migrating to the GOP

and there's still bigots in the democrats today

but the political unity of the GOP as the party of bigots is now a much stronger signal

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox righties are not brainwashed. They're a$$holes. They are willfully evil, horrible people and they know it.

@benroyce @swacknificent @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox yes, the GOP is far less diverse. But its diversity is increasing fast. 25% of Trump's voters were nonwhite, a new GOP high since the Great Depression. I don't know that that means disunity. They are united around Nazi eugenics. There's a LOT of self-loathing among PoC unfortunately, particularly non-blacks.

@sennoma @benroyce @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Anyone who thinks the Right is unified has never spent time reading Right side forums.

They are always arguing with each other and complaining about a lack of unity.

And they see the Left as a united horde.

Every movement looks unified from the outside, and chaotic from the inside.