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  • hackilluH hackillu

    @theotherbrook @mttaggart the site wouldn't download, so i did copy paste

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    @hackillu @mttaggart There's now a thread on the open forum.

    EDIT: Oh, but it's been locked. I've bumped heads with Aurich about some stuff but I do trust him to be pretty open when they are ready to talk about it.

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    • TaggartM Taggart

      What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

      UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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      @mttaggart so, ars technica is now merely slop as well?

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      • TaggartM Taggart

        This scoop brought to you by the TTI Intel Feed, which also routinely beats commercial threat intel to the punch on important emerging threats.

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        Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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        • The Other BrookT The Other Brook

          @mttaggart Oh, I wish you'd gotten the comments too. I can only imagine what some familiar handles would have had to say in them.

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          @theotherbrook @mttaggart it still exists in their forum.

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          • TaggartM Taggart

            Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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            Aaand the full comments thread from the original story: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name.1511649/

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              @theorangetheme I think the lock might be SOP for a pulled story. And mods tend not to like rampant speculation.

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              • TaggartM Taggart

                What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                @mttaggart

                AI isn't intended to be accurate, useful, or productive.

                It's just automated information pollution like Steve Bannon's version of Russian "flood the zone with sh*t" disinformation.
                https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919

                https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312917423.html

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                Look at the investors behind AI.

                Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE
                They don't have to fly planes into buildings anymore to destroy democracy & fry the planet.

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                A Saudi official raised the key question during a panel at the World Defense Show outside Riyadh.

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                • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                  @mttaggart

                  AI isn't intended to be accurate, useful, or productive.

                  It's just automated information pollution like Steve Bannon's version of Russian "flood the zone with sh*t" disinformation.
                  https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919

                  https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312917423.html

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                  Look at the investors behind AI.

                  Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE
                  They don't have to fly planes into buildings anymore to destroy democracy & fry the planet.

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                  A Saudi official raised the key question during a panel at the World Defense Show outside Riyadh.

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                  Russia & Putin
                  Putin deluded himself that AI-enabled warfare will solve his manpower problems & population bottlenecks. 1.3 million dead soldiers so far in Ukraine.
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                    @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                    @SnoopJ @aud it isn’t *quite* a milkshake duck in degree, but maybe in spirit

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                      Russia & Putin
                      Putin deluded himself that AI-enabled warfare will solve his manpower problems & population bottlenecks. 1.3 million dead soldiers so far in Ukraine.
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                      Koch Network
                      Building a White Supremacist Constitution one brick at a time over 60 years.

                      The hate is now automated, corrupt, & well funded.
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                      • TaggartM Taggart

                        @catsalad Slop on slop on slop. Literally.

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                        @mttaggart @catsalad wait, was there *any* truth in there whatsoever? Like, it sounds like it was 100% made up?

                        Just like the Daily Mail is known for?

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                        • TaggartM Taggart

                          What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                          UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                          @mttaggart ALAS, THE MOONSHARK HAS EATEN YOUR LINK.

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                            Koch Network
                            Building a White Supremacist Constitution one brick at a time over 60 years.

                            The hate is now automated, corrupt, & well funded.
                            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

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                            Many have noted that the Koch Brothers' dad was a Bircher, but new documents show Charles was, too.

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                            With AI, the wealthy skip paying for hate-for-hire campaigns like Facebook, Tenet Media, or the Russian Internet Research Agency

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                            She was “disgusted and disappointed.”

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                            Just a moment...

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                            Pam Bondi's performance in congressional hearings was an excellent example of Russian-style media manipulation.
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                            • TaggartM Taggart

                              What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                              UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                              @mttaggart this seems so unlike Benji Edwards, I'm really surprised

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                                Just a moment...

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                                His refusal to concede is more than sour grapes. It's an information-warfare tactic to leave the public bewildered and cynical.

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                                (www.persuasion.community)

                                Pam Bondi's performance in congressional hearings was an excellent example of Russian-style media manipulation.
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

                                Firehosing & automation
                                https://mediamanipulation.org/definitions/distributed-amplification/

                                Access Denied

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                                @Npars01

                                Bondi's rendition looked more like the classic (and abhorent) cartoon version of hysterical female pms. Not how to impress the board in the western world. These women Trump goes for are all broken and the men stupid.

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                                  @Sobex @bnys @mttaggart
                                  and while this was a faster response than the trans hit piece of a couple years ago, it's the same playbook: lock comments, promise an investigation, and hope it dies down over the weekend.
                                  A pity really. A place I used to value. For me, the anti-trans piece was the end.

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                                  • Advanced Persistent TeapotH Advanced Persistent Teapot

                                    @mttaggart @catsalad wait, was there *any* truth in there whatsoever? Like, it sounds like it was 100% made up?

                                    Just like the Daily Mail is known for?

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                                    @http_error_418 @mttaggart @catsalad No, I saw the original Git page yesterday and there was a blog post from him after.

                                    It's a mess, but it's real.

                                    Edit: now with receipts!

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                                      @bnys @mttaggart Berger is an embarassment

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                                      • TaggartM Taggart

                                        UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                        @mttaggart

                                        They surely pulled it and it now has their moonshark 404 page, the moonshark ate the AI slop.

                                        Edit: since the story itself was about an AI agent, we can dub this a clusterfuck.

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                                        • TaggartM Taggart

                                          What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                          UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                          @mttaggart

                                          More like ArseTechnica, am I right?

                                          @arstechnica

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