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  • TaggartM Taggart

    What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

    UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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    @mttaggart Why is it that I *immediately* figured that the byline would be Benj Edwards?

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    • TaggartM Taggart

      What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

      UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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      @mttaggart lol @ the one downvote

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      • SnoopJS SnoopJ

        @jalefkowit @mttaggart I'm really saddened that Benj's work seems to have fallen off. I trusted his writing, once.

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        @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart I am tempted to go on a tagging spree but out of respect for your mentions I will refrain. but what the hell, someone needs to be held to account for this

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        • GlyphG Glyph

          @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart I am tempted to go on a tagging spree but out of respect for your mentions I will refrain. but what the hell, someone needs to be held to account for this

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          @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart in this day and age I do not want to go around saying reporters should be fired, I get that it’s hard out there, but this needs to be a MAJOR scandal for ars and for Benj and Kyle personally

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          • GlyphG Glyph

            @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart in this day and age I do not want to go around saying reporters should be fired, I get that it’s hard out there, but this needs to be a MAJOR scandal for ars and for Benj and Kyle personally

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            @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

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            • SnoopJS SnoopJ

              @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

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              @SnoopJ @glyph @jalefkowit I can not imagine an explanation of how this occurred that isn't damning.

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              • TaggartM Taggart

                @SnoopJ @glyph @jalefkowit I can not imagine an explanation of how this occurred that isn't damning.

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                @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit laying my personal wager on "someone used the nonsense machine" but agreed, I cannot think of any explanation for this that would be remotely acceptable.

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                • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                  @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit laying my personal wager on "someone used the nonsense machine" but agreed, I cannot think of any explanation for this that would be remotely acceptable.

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                  @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit correction: I *can* think of one, and it's "they accidentally quoted from the hit-piece blog articles instead"

                  But they didn't do that, those don't contain the quotes either.

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                  • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                    @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

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                    @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io @glyph@mastodon.social @jalefkowit@vmst.io @mttaggart@infosec.exchange I am disappointed, although not surprised, that my read on Benj's work at Ars turned out to the accurate one in recent years. Bleh.

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                    • Asta [AMP]A Asta [AMP]

                      @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io @glyph@mastodon.social @jalefkowit@vmst.io @mttaggart@infosec.exchange I am disappointed, although not surprised, that my read on Benj's work at Ars turned out to the accurate one in recent years. Bleh.

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                      @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                      • TaggartM Taggart

                        What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                        UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                        @mttaggart

                        Seeing the absolute shit shoveling going on that counts for producing content at Ars over the past well...10-15 years at this point...

                        I'm not sure anyone should be following them let alone paying them subscription money.

                        That they are now using AI to write their articles is the least surprising thing ever. What a catastrophic fall from grace.

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                        • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                          @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                          @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io One explanation I can think of is that an editor or Conde Nast higher up generated this using the author's bylines, without their involvement.

                          I would not put it past Conde Nast.

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                          • Asta [AMP]A Asta [AMP]

                            @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io One explanation I can think of is that an editor or Conde Nast higher up generated this using the author's bylines, without their involvement.

                            I would not put it past Conde Nast.

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                            @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io but if his work had been good (which I was not familiar with before I started reading his articles that smacked increasingly more of boosterism) before... well, it certainly seems to fall into the pattern that people are seeing with regards to LLM usage (trusting it more and more without checking, etc).

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                            • TaggartM Taggart

                              What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                              UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                              @mttaggart Seems they took it down. Just wow.

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                              • TaggartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @HitokiriEric @mhoye @arstechnica Maybe, but Pepperidge Farm remembers: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                • TaggartM Taggart

                                  What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                  UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                  UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                  • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                                    @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit correction: I *can* think of one, and it's "they accidentally quoted from the hit-piece blog articles instead"

                                    But they didn't do that, those don't contain the quotes either.

                                    Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @SnoopJ @mttaggart @glyph Looks like the article has been completely deleted.

                                    Aurich said in the comments before it vanished that they were aware of the issue and looking into it. I assume the findings were pretty dire.

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                                    • TaggartM Taggart

                                      What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                      UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                      @mttaggart archive dot org link since they took it down: https://web.archive.org/web/20260213194851/https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/02/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name/

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                                      • TaggartM Taggart

                                        UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                        @mttaggart Crap, they DID?! I still have it open! Anything you want before it goes into the void?

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                                        • hackilluH hackillu

                                          @mttaggart Crap, they DID?! I still have it open! Anything you want before it goes into the void?

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                                          @hackillu https://web.archive.org/web/20260213194851/https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/02/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name/

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