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  • TaggartM Taggart

    What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

    UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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    Kevin Mirsky :donor:K This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mttaggart and here I was, just recently reflecting that I should probably be reading Ars more based on some other coverage. Come on!!

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    • cR0wC cR0w

      @mttaggart It's just too on the nose.

      Amber :neodog_box:P This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cR0w@infosec.exchange @mttaggart@infosec.exchange Insane.

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      • TaggartM Taggart

        What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

        UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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        Katie Kloss 🏳️‍⚧️K This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mttaggart It's like they all *want* to be made fun of.

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        • SnoopJS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jalefkowit @mttaggart I'm really saddened that Benj's work seems to have fallen off. I trusted his writing, once.

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          • TaggartM Taggart

            What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

            UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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            dataramaD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mttaggart Why is it that I *immediately* figured that the byline would be Benj Edwards?

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            • TaggartM Taggart

              What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

              UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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              Corey Snipes 🌱C This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mttaggart lol @ the one downvote

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              • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                @jalefkowit @mttaggart I'm really saddened that Benj's work seems to have fallen off. I trusted his writing, once.

                GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart I am tempted to go on a tagging spree but out of respect for your mentions I will refrain. but what the hell, someone needs to be held to account for this

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                • GlyphG Glyph

                  @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart I am tempted to go on a tagging spree but out of respect for your mentions I will refrain. but what the hell, someone needs to be held to account for this

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                  @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart in this day and age I do not want to go around saying reporters should be fired, I get that it’s hard out there, but this needs to be a MAJOR scandal for ars and for Benj and Kyle personally

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                  • GlyphG Glyph

                    @SnoopJ @jalefkowit @mttaggart in this day and age I do not want to go around saying reporters should be fired, I get that it’s hard out there, but this needs to be a MAJOR scandal for ars and for Benj and Kyle personally

                    SnoopJS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

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                    • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                      @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

                      TaggartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @SnoopJ @glyph @jalefkowit I can not imagine an explanation of how this occurred that isn't damning.

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                      • TaggartM Taggart

                        @SnoopJ @glyph @jalefkowit I can not imagine an explanation of how this occurred that isn't damning.

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                        #16

                        @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit laying my personal wager on "someone used the nonsense machine" but agreed, I cannot think of any explanation for this that would be remotely acceptable.

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                        • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                          @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit laying my personal wager on "someone used the nonsense machine" but agreed, I cannot think of any explanation for this that would be remotely acceptable.

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                          @mttaggart @glyph @jalefkowit correction: I *can* think of one, and it's "they accidentally quoted from the hit-piece blog articles instead"

                          But they didn't do that, those don't contain the quotes either.

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                          • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                            @glyph @jalefkowit @mttaggart at the very least, it is egregious malpractice.

                            Asta [AMP]A This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io @glyph@mastodon.social @jalefkowit@vmst.io @mttaggart@infosec.exchange I am disappointed, although not surprised, that my read on Benj's work at Ars turned out to the accurate one in recent years. Bleh.

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                            • Asta [AMP]A Asta [AMP]

                              @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io @glyph@mastodon.social @jalefkowit@vmst.io @mttaggart@infosec.exchange I am disappointed, although not surprised, that my read on Benj's work at Ars turned out to the accurate one in recent years. Bleh.

                              SnoopJS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                              • TaggartM Taggart

                                What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                BrettB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mttaggart

                                Seeing the absolute shit shoveling going on that counts for producing content at Ars over the past well...10-15 years at this point...

                                I'm not sure anyone should be following them let alone paying them subscription money.

                                That they are now using AI to write their articles is the least surprising thing ever. What a catastrophic fall from grace.

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                                • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                                  @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                                  @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io One explanation I can think of is that an editor or Conde Nast higher up generated this using the author's bylines, without their involvement.

                                  I would not put it past Conde Nast.

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                                  • Asta [AMP]A Asta [AMP]

                                    @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io One explanation I can think of is that an editor or Conde Nast higher up generated this using the author's bylines, without their involvement.

                                    I would not put it past Conde Nast.

                                    Asta [AMP]A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io but if his work had been good (which I was not familiar with before I started reading his articles that smacked increasingly more of boosterism) before... well, it certainly seems to fall into the pattern that people are seeing with regards to LLM usage (trusting it more and more without checking, etc).

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                                    • TaggartM Taggart

                                      What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                      UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                      Melvin GundlachM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mttaggart Seems they took it down. Just wow.

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                                      • TaggartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @HitokiriEric @mhoye @arstechnica Maybe, but Pepperidge Farm remembers: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                        • TaggartM Taggart

                                          What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                          UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                          TaggartM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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