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  • JoseJ Jose

    @jalefkowit @mttaggart Big same. Decades now.

    They need to respond fast or I'm out.

    Jason LefkowitzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @j_s_j @mttaggart Aurich said in the comments that they are investigating, but probably won't have a response until Monday.

    It had better be a good one

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    • The Other BrookT The Other Brook

      @hackillu @mttaggart You got the comments online anywhere? I am dying to see them.

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      @theotherbrook @mttaggart I just have a text file.

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      • hackilluH hackillu

        @theotherbrook @mttaggart I just have a text file.

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        @theotherbrook @mttaggart the site wouldn't download, so i did copy paste

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        • hackilluH hackillu

          @theotherbrook @mttaggart the site wouldn't download, so i did copy paste

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          @hackillu @mttaggart There's now a thread on the open forum.

          EDIT: Oh, but it's been locked. I've bumped heads with Aurich about some stuff but I do trust him to be pretty open when they are ready to talk about it.

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          • TaggartM Taggart

            What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

            UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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            @mttaggart so, ars technica is now merely slop as well?

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            • TaggartM Taggart

              This scoop brought to you by the TTI Intel Feed, which also routinely beats commercial threat intel to the punch on important emerging threats.

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              Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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              • The Other BrookT The Other Brook

                @mttaggart Oh, I wish you'd gotten the comments too. I can only imagine what some familiar handles would have had to say in them.

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                @theotherbrook @mttaggart it still exists in their forum.

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                • TaggartM Taggart

                  Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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                  Aaand the full comments thread from the original story: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name.1511649/

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                    @theorangetheme I think the lock might be SOP for a pulled story. And mods tend not to like rampant speculation.

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                    • TaggartM Taggart

                      What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                      UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                      @mttaggart

                      AI isn't intended to be accurate, useful, or productive.

                      It's just automated information pollution like Steve Bannon's version of Russian "flood the zone with sh*t" disinformation.
                      https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919

                      https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312917423.html

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                      Look at the investors behind AI.

                      Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE
                      They don't have to fly planes into buildings anymore to destroy democracy & fry the planet.

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                      Future of military AI in Saudi Arabia: AI-enhanced, or AI-native? - Breaking Defense

                      A Saudi official raised the key question during a panel at the World Defense Show outside Riyadh.

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                      Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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                      • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                        @mttaggart

                        AI isn't intended to be accurate, useful, or productive.

                        It's just automated information pollution like Steve Bannon's version of Russian "flood the zone with sh*t" disinformation.
                        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919

                        https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312917423.html

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                        Look at the investors behind AI.

                        Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE
                        They don't have to fly planes into buildings anymore to destroy democracy & fry the planet.

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                        Future of military AI in Saudi Arabia: AI-enhanced, or AI-native? - Breaking Defense

                        A Saudi official raised the key question during a panel at the World Defense Show outside Riyadh.

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                        Russia & Putin
                        Putin deluded himself that AI-enabled warfare will solve his manpower problems & population bottlenecks. 1.3 million dead soldiers so far in Ukraine.
                        https://www.neimagazine.com/news/putin-links-nuclear-buildout-to-russias-ai-ambitions/

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                        The Kremlin made Yuri Gagarin the first man in space but now lags Luxembourg in AI — which the president seems to regard as a challenge to his authority

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                        • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                          @aud very rude of him to fall off so strongly immediately after I defended his work to you

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                          @SnoopJ @aud it isn’t *quite* a milkshake duck in degree, but maybe in spirit

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                            Russia & Putin
                            Putin deluded himself that AI-enabled warfare will solve his manpower problems & population bottlenecks. 1.3 million dead soldiers so far in Ukraine.
                            https://www.neimagazine.com/news/putin-links-nuclear-buildout-to-russias-ai-ambitions/

                            wsj.com

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                            Koch Network
                            Building a White Supremacist Constitution one brick at a time over 60 years.

                            The hate is now automated, corrupt, & well funded.
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                            • TaggartM Taggart

                              @catsalad Slop on slop on slop. Literally.

                              Advanced Persistent TeapotH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @mttaggart @catsalad wait, was there *any* truth in there whatsoever? Like, it sounds like it was 100% made up?

                              Just like the Daily Mail is known for?

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                              • TaggartM Taggart

                                What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                @mttaggart ALAS, THE MOONSHARK HAS EATEN YOUR LINK.

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                                  Koch Network
                                  Building a White Supremacist Constitution one brick at a time over 60 years.

                                  The hate is now automated, corrupt, & well funded.
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                                  Many have noted that the Koch Brothers' dad was a Bircher, but new documents show Charles was, too.

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                                  With AI, the wealthy skip paying for hate-for-hire campaigns like Facebook, Tenet Media, or the Russian Internet Research Agency

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                                  Pam Bondi's performance in congressional hearings was an excellent example of Russian-style media manipulation.
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                                  • TaggartM Taggart

                                    What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                    UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                    Page not found 404 | Ars Technica

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                                    @mttaggart this seems so unlike Benji Edwards, I'm really surprised

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                                      Trump's Firehose of Falsehood

                                      His refusal to concede is more than sour grapes. It's an information-warfare tactic to leave the public bewildered and cynical.

                                      favicon

                                      (www.persuasion.community)

                                      Pam Bondi's performance in congressional hearings was an excellent example of Russian-style media manipulation.
                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

                                      Firehosing & automation
                                      https://mediamanipulation.org/definitions/distributed-amplification/

                                      Access Denied

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                                      @Npars01

                                      Bondi's rendition looked more like the classic (and abhorent) cartoon version of hysterical female pms. Not how to impress the board in the western world. These women Trump goes for are all broken and the men stupid.

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                                        @Sobex @bnys @mttaggart
                                        and while this was a faster response than the trans hit piece of a couple years ago, it's the same playbook: lock comments, promise an investigation, and hope it dies down over the weekend.
                                        A pity really. A place I used to value. For me, the anti-trans piece was the end.

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                                        • Advanced Persistent TeapotH Advanced Persistent Teapot

                                          @mttaggart @catsalad wait, was there *any* truth in there whatsoever? Like, it sounds like it was 100% made up?

                                          Just like the Daily Mail is known for?

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                                          @http_error_418 @mttaggart @catsalad No, I saw the original Git page yesterday and there was a blog post from him after.

                                          It's a mess, but it's real.

                                          Edit: now with receipts!

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