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  • SammiejC Sammiej

    Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

    No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
    No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
    No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

    Simple.

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    We're launching March 2026.

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    • SammiejC Sammiej

      We're launching March 2026.

      Features:
      ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
      ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
      ✅ Open source (auditable code)
      ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
      ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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      #37

      If 700+ of you care enough to boost the problem,

      Maybe some of you want to be part of the solution?

      Founding member waitlist (first 500 get lifetime 40% discount):
      👉 https://snugg.social

      No biometric data. Not now. Not ever.

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      • jacobgormJ jacobgorm

        @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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        #38

        @jacobgorm @capitainesam, quite some assumptions there…

        “Profile photo”

        “We all”

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        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

          @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

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          #39

          @dancingtreefrog
          This might help, it's shake and lock feature to be exact:
          https://f-droid.org/packages/com.paranoid.privacylock

          Android advanced security also has this feature, but it adds blocking non-Play app installs and updates.

          @capitainesam

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          • SammiejC Sammiej

            When your password leaks:
            → Change your password
            → Problem solved

            When your biometric data leaks:
            → You can't change your face
            → You can't change your fingerprints
            → The compromise is permanent
            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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            @capitainesam One of the 1.000.000.000 reasons.

            Same with ID. It has a biometric photo on it. If scanned accurately, it can, AND WILL, be used to identify you.

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            • DanI Dan

              @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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              @ill_logic @jfml @capitainesam every proper implementation hashes the fingerprint, just like you don't store clear text passwords in the shadow file...

              The question is, is this a proper implementation on phones...

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              • SammiejC Sammiej

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                #42

                @capitainesam I don't think it's true.
                If I compare to SSH keys. My face is the password of my private key.
                Generating another private key with the same password is still possible and it's a different key.

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                • SammiejC Sammiej

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                  #43

                  @capitainesam the ultimate argument against the stupidity of moving away from just using passwords. All this biometric stuff can go take a leap. I'll never use any of it.

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                  • SammiejC Sammiej

                    Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                    No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                    No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                    No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                    Simple.

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                    #44

                    @capitainesam

                    Won't the law require you to to biometric ID?

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                    • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam GrapheneOS supports a pin as second factor for biometrics

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                      • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                        @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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                        @dancingtreefrog @vrek @capitainesam I think you're describing Orson Scott Card's "Dogwalker," which involves intuiting a password but failing to realize that the target always miskeyed the first time until too late.

                        "Neuromancer" does have a character who is neurologically crippled by their employer (with a "wartime Russian mycotoxin"). ("He'd made the classic mistake, the one he'd sworn he'd never make. He stole from his employers.")

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                        • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                          @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

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                          @dancingtreefrog Easier said than done for most people. Biometric unlock of phones is *so* much more convenient than passcodes that most people would not give it up.

                          For most, I think knowing the gesture to force passcode entry for the next unlock is probably a more practical skill to practice (on iPhones, you hold the Lock and Volume Up buttons together until you feel a haptic buzz).

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