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  • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

    @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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    vrek
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    #15

    @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam hmm... I read that too but same as you it's been over a decade, might be time for a re-read

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    • SammiejC Sammiej

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

      HTPC NZH This user is from outside of this forum
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      HTPC NZ
      wrote last edited by
      #16

      @capitainesam until you start abusing billionaires biometric data, nothing will ever happen... Even then only use of theirs will be quickly outlawed.

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      • SammiejC Sammiej

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        Jon ClausenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        Jon Clausen
        wrote last edited by
        #17

        @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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        • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

          @capitainesam

          > You can't change your face

          Not with that attitude

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          Princess Serena Star ✨
          wrote last edited by
          #18

          @capitainesam@mastodon.social @negative12dollarbill@techhub.social yeah, easy. just get plastic surgery, duhhhhh /j

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          • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

            @capitainesam

            > You can't change your face

            Not with that attitude

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            Richard Webb
            wrote last edited by
            #19

            @negative12dollarbill @capitainesam

            Depends on your climate - here in Scotland is is often just a matter of hours before the wind changes. #Folklaw

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            • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

              @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

              One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

              Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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              Erin, OSHA Denialist
              wrote last edited by
              #20

              @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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              • manchickenM manchicken

                @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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                Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️
                wrote last edited by
                #21

                @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                • Erin, OSHA DenialistE Erin, OSHA Denialist

                  @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                  David W. Jones
                  wrote last edited by
                  #22

                  @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                  • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                    @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                    ananas
                    wrote last edited by
                    #23

                    @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                    • ananasA ananas

                      @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                      David W. Jones
                      wrote last edited by
                      #24

                      @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                        John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John_LoaderJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John_Loader
                        wrote last edited by
                        #25

                        @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                        • SammiejC Sammiej

                          When your password leaks:
                          → Change your password
                          → Problem solved

                          When your biometric data leaks:
                          → You can't change your face
                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                          → The compromise is permanent
                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                          jacobgormJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          jacobgorm
                          wrote last edited by
                          #26

                          @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                          • SammiejC Sammiej

                            When your password leaks:
                            → Change your password
                            → Problem solved

                            When your biometric data leaks:
                            → You can't change your face
                            → You can't change your fingerprints
                            → The compromise is permanent
                            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                            Michael JenkinsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Michael Jenkins
                            wrote last edited by
                            #27

                            @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                            • SammiejC Sammiej

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                              Paco HopeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Paco Hope
                              wrote last edited by
                              #28

                              @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                              • Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️T Victoria 🏳️‍⚧️

                                @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                                manchicken
                                wrote last edited by
                                #29

                                @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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                                • SammiejC Sammiej

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  joatJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  joat
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @capitainesam market opportunity: add face management to password managers. Generate different fake faces for each service. Automatically overlay fake faces and fake text details over passport scans.

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                                  • David W. JonesD David W. Jones

                                    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                                    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                                    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                                    MercutioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Mercutio
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @dancingtreefrog
                                    Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                                    @capitainesam

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                                    • SammiejC Sammiej

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                      RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      René
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                                      • SammiejC Sammiej

                                        When your password leaks:
                                        → Change your password
                                        → Problem solved

                                        When your biometric data leaks:
                                        → You can't change your face
                                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                                        → The compromise is permanent
                                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                        SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Sammiej
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #33

                                        🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                        Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                        More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                        Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                        • SammiejC Sammiej

                                          🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                          Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                          More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                          Here's what I'm doing about it:

                                          SammiejC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Sammiej
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #34

                                          I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                          ❌ Facial recognition
                                          ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                          ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                          Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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