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  • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
    Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

    Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

    In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
    https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

    WiredfireW KinguK silverwizardS Jaye 🍊J F4GRX SébastienF 7 Replies Last reply
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    • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

      This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

      Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

      In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
      https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

      WiredfireW This user is from outside of this forum
      WiredfireW This user is from outside of this forum
      Wiredfire
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      #2

      @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

      I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

      Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Mike SpoonerS Seth of the FediverseP 3 Replies Last reply
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      • WiredfireW Wiredfire

        @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

        I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

        Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
        Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
        Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒
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        @wiredfire you have to wonder how few actual journalists are left.

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        • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

          This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

          Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

          In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
          https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

          KinguK This user is from outside of this forum
          KinguK This user is from outside of this forum
          Kingu
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          #4

          @killyourfm

          Right after I unfollowed them for spamming my feed with AI ads... 🙂

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          • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

            This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

            Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

            In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
            https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

            silverwizardS This user is from outside of this forum
            silverwizardS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @killyourfm honestly, there seems to be no promise they wont use other LLMs for this, honestly.
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            • WiredfireW Wiredfire

              @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

              I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

              Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
              Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
              Mike Spooner
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @wiredfire @killyourfm What is doubly-distressing about this particular incident is that it was done by a journalist/author who was known previously for being knowlegable, cautious and careful.

              Someone I (previously) personally trusted, seemingly succumbed to a time-pressure-induced brain-fart.

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              • KinguK Kingu

                @killyourfm

                Right after I unfollowed them for spamming my feed with AI ads... 🙂

                Helen LHR This user is from outside of this forum
                Helen LHR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Kingu @killyourfm I did the same thing! They're just a big tech ad platform now. No real journalism for a good while.

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                • Helen LHR Helen LH

                  @Kingu @killyourfm I did the same thing! They're just a big tech ad platform now. No real journalism for a good while.

                  KinguK This user is from outside of this forum
                  KinguK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Kingu
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                  @Research_FTW @killyourfm

                  They add their chance!
                  They failed

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                  • WiredfireW Wiredfire

                    @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

                    I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Seth of the Fediverse
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                    @wiredfire @killyourfm yes this journalist needs to be axed.

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                    • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                      This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                      Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                      In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                      https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                      Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
                      Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
                      Jaye 🍊
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                      #10

                      @killyourfm I'm still a supporter of Ars. The fact that they published such a large, public retraction like this is a good sign. Most publications would just revise the article and maybe put a footnote on the bottom that they "fixed some inaccuracies."

                      This gives me hope that Ars will continue to be a solid source of tech news.

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                      • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                        This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                        Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                        In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                        https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                        F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                        F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                        F4GRX Sébastien
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                        @killyourfm the only thing left to do is fire the offender. This is required to reinstate trust.

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                        • Mike SpoonerS Mike Spooner

                          @wiredfire @killyourfm What is doubly-distressing about this particular incident is that it was done by a journalist/author who was known previously for being knowlegable, cautious and careful.

                          Someone I (previously) personally trusted, seemingly succumbed to a time-pressure-induced brain-fart.

                          F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                          F4GRX Sébastien
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                          @shelldozer @wiredfire @killyourfm this person has to go.

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                          • Jaye 🍊J Jaye 🍊

                            @killyourfm I'm still a supporter of Ars. The fact that they published such a large, public retraction like this is a good sign. Most publications would just revise the article and maybe put a footnote on the bottom that they "fixed some inaccuracies."

                            This gives me hope that Ars will continue to be a solid source of tech news.

                            F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                            F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                            F4GRX Sébastien
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                            @jaye @killyourfm my fear is that more slop is/will be pushed without being detected.

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                            • F4GRX SébastienF F4GRX Sébastien

                              @jaye @killyourfm my fear is that more slop is/will be pushed without being detected.

                              Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jaye 🍊
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                              #14

                              @f4grx @killyourfm By then making such a big deal about it, shedding more light on it, I don’t think that’s going to result in more slop. At least that’s my hope.

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                              • Jaye 🍊J Jaye 🍊

                                @f4grx @killyourfm By then making such a big deal about it, shedding more light on it, I don’t think that’s going to result in more slop. At least that’s my hope.

                                F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                                F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @jaye @killyourfm let's hope so.

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                                • F4GRX SébastienF F4GRX Sébastien

                                  @shelldozer @wiredfire @killyourfm this person has to go.

                                  Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @f4grx @wiredfire @killyourfm I'm not sure I could be that hardline in this case, but I am feeling conflicted. Gaaaaargh.

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                                  • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                    This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                                    Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                                    In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                                    https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                                    Jon 🇨🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jon 🇨🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jon 🇨🇦
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                                    @killyourfm I can’t trust anything I read online these days to be trustworthy or believable.

                                    Living offline out in nature seems to be better for my health. 🏕️

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                                    • Jon 🇨🇦S Jon 🇨🇦

                                      @killyourfm I can’t trust anything I read online these days to be trustworthy or believable.

                                      Living offline out in nature seems to be better for my health. 🏕️

                                      Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @SamuraiSakura Jon, that sounds like paradise. It reminds me of last year when I spent nearly 3 months hiking across Oregon and didn't pay any attention to world news, tech news, or politics.

                                      It was blissful.

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                                      • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                        @SamuraiSakura Jon, that sounds like paradise. It reminds me of last year when I spent nearly 3 months hiking across Oregon and didn't pay any attention to world news, tech news, or politics.

                                        It was blissful.

                                        Jon 🇨🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Jon 🇨🇦
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                                        @killyourfm Yes, you inspired me through all your posts.

                                        I made a decision at the start of the year to live more offline and turn off online as much as I can.

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                                        • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                          This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                                          Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                                          In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                                          https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                                          FurryBetaF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          FurryBetaF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @killyourfm Yeah, this was a major screw up by @arstechnica (I’m a subscriber), but I feel they owned the screw up, at least.

                                          Idk, what lead to this happening, but if a LLM is being used anywhere in the process, this could happen; the only way out is a hard ban on LLMs (unless reporting on LLMs) and banning the people who use them. Which can bring its own set of problems of detection and such

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