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  • WiredfireW Wiredfire

    @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

    I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

    Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K This user is from outside of this forum
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    @wiredfire you have to wonder how few actual journalists are left.

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    • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

      This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

      Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

      In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
      https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

      KinguK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @killyourfm

      Right after I unfollowed them for spamming my feed with AI ads... 🙂

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      • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

        This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

        Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

        In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
        https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

        silverwizardS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @killyourfm honestly, there seems to be no promise they wont use other LLMs for this, honestly.
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        • WiredfireW Wiredfire

          @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

          I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

          Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @wiredfire @killyourfm What is doubly-distressing about this particular incident is that it was done by a journalist/author who was known previously for being knowlegable, cautious and careful.

          Someone I (previously) personally trusted, seemingly succumbed to a time-pressure-induced brain-fart.

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          • KinguK Kingu

            @killyourfm

            Right after I unfollowed them for spamming my feed with AI ads... 🙂

            Helen LHR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Kingu @killyourfm I did the same thing! They're just a big tech ad platform now. No real journalism for a good while.

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            • Helen LHR Helen LH

              @Kingu @killyourfm I did the same thing! They're just a big tech ad platform now. No real journalism for a good while.

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              @Research_FTW @killyourfm

              They add their chance!
              They failed

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              • WiredfireW Wiredfire

                @killyourfm It’s shouting into the wind, I appreciate, but the simple rule should be that any *actual* journalist just shouldn’t use AI. At all. Ever. At least not for anything relating to an article.

                I remember being at uni in 2000 and watching the journalism course student and dreading for the state of News once they were in charge. Now they are, and I was right to worry.

                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @wiredfire @killyourfm yes this journalist needs to be axed.

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                • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                  This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                  Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                  In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                  https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                  Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @killyourfm I'm still a supporter of Ars. The fact that they published such a large, public retraction like this is a good sign. Most publications would just revise the article and maybe put a footnote on the bottom that they "fixed some inaccuracies."

                  This gives me hope that Ars will continue to be a solid source of tech news.

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                  • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                    This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                    Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                    In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                    https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                    F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                    F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                    F4GRX Sébastien
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                    @killyourfm the only thing left to do is fire the offender. This is required to reinstate trust.

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                    • Mike SpoonerS Mike Spooner

                      @wiredfire @killyourfm What is doubly-distressing about this particular incident is that it was done by a journalist/author who was known previously for being knowlegable, cautious and careful.

                      Someone I (previously) personally trusted, seemingly succumbed to a time-pressure-induced brain-fart.

                      F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                      F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @shelldozer @wiredfire @killyourfm this person has to go.

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                      • Jaye 🍊J Jaye 🍊

                        @killyourfm I'm still a supporter of Ars. The fact that they published such a large, public retraction like this is a good sign. Most publications would just revise the article and maybe put a footnote on the bottom that they "fixed some inaccuracies."

                        This gives me hope that Ars will continue to be a solid source of tech news.

                        F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
                        F4GRX SébastienF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jaye @killyourfm my fear is that more slop is/will be pushed without being detected.

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                        • F4GRX SébastienF F4GRX Sébastien

                          @jaye @killyourfm my fear is that more slop is/will be pushed without being detected.

                          Jaye 🍊J This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @f4grx @killyourfm By then making such a big deal about it, shedding more light on it, I don’t think that’s going to result in more slop. At least that’s my hope.

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                          • Jaye 🍊J Jaye 🍊

                            @f4grx @killyourfm By then making such a big deal about it, shedding more light on it, I don’t think that’s going to result in more slop. At least that’s my hope.

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                            @jaye @killyourfm let's hope so.

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                            • F4GRX SébastienF F4GRX Sébastien

                              @shelldozer @wiredfire @killyourfm this person has to go.

                              Mike SpoonerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @f4grx @wiredfire @killyourfm I'm not sure I could be that hardline in this case, but I am feeling conflicted. Gaaaaargh.

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                              • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                                Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                                In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                                https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

                                Jon 🇨🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jon 🇨🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @killyourfm I can’t trust anything I read online these days to be trustworthy or believable.

                                Living offline out in nature seems to be better for my health. 🏕️

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                                • Jon 🇨🇦S Jon 🇨🇦

                                  @killyourfm I can’t trust anything I read online these days to be trustworthy or believable.

                                  Living offline out in nature seems to be better for my health. 🏕️

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                                  @SamuraiSakura Jon, that sounds like paradise. It reminds me of last year when I spent nearly 3 months hiking across Oregon and didn't pay any attention to world news, tech news, or politics.

                                  It was blissful.

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                                  • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                    @SamuraiSakura Jon, that sounds like paradise. It reminds me of last year when I spent nearly 3 months hiking across Oregon and didn't pay any attention to world news, tech news, or politics.

                                    It was blissful.

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                                    @killyourfm Yes, you inspired me through all your posts.

                                    I made a decision at the start of the year to live more offline and turn off online as much as I can.

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                                    • Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒K Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒

                                      This needs to be shared on its own for visibility. It’s difficult to trust Ars Technica after this. I respect for publishing this but…

                                      Frankly it’s getting increasingly difficult to trust any news source.

                                      In the journalism world, fabricated quotes is an egregious offense.
                                      https://arstechnica.com/staff/2026/02/editors-note-retraction-of-article-containing-fabricated-quotations/

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                                      @killyourfm Yeah, this was a major screw up by @arstechnica (I’m a subscriber), but I feel they owned the screw up, at least.

                                      Idk, what lead to this happening, but if a LLM is being used anywhere in the process, this could happen; the only way out is a hard ban on LLMs (unless reporting on LLMs) and banning the people who use them. Which can bring its own set of problems of detection and such

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                                      • Seth of the FediverseP Seth of the Fediverse

                                        @wiredfire @killyourfm yes this journalist needs to be axed.

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                                        @phillycodehound @killyourfm And thrown into the Total Perspective Vortex!

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                                        • Mike SpoonerS Mike Spooner

                                          @f4grx @wiredfire @killyourfm I'm not sure I could be that hardline in this case, but I am feeling conflicted. Gaaaaargh.

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                                          @shelldozer @wiredfire @killyourfm if Ars had rules as clear as described in the retractation, then this is a simple fuck around / find out kind of situation. Since the consequence is the credibility of a well established publication, I think that person should take full responsibility.

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