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  • Daniel J. LewisT Daniel J. Lewis

    @aegrumet @dave Or even GPT-5.3-Codex (although 5.4 is better).

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    @theDanielJLewis @dave opus 4.6 and gpt 5.4 have been a noticeable step up from previous.

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    • Andrew GrumetA Andrew Grumet

      @theDanielJLewis @dave opus 4.6 and gpt 5.4 have been a noticeable step up from previous.

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      @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

      It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

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      • DaveD Dave

        @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

        It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

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        @theDanielJLewis @aegrumet I could be wrong. It's just my observation based on what I've seen so far.

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        • DaveD Dave

          @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

          It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

          Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A This user is from outside of this forum
          Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A This user is from outside of this forum
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          @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

          As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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          • Daniel J. LewisT Daniel J. Lewis

            @aegrumet @dave Or even GPT-5.3-Codex (although 5.4 is better).

            CSB ≡ Comic Strip BloggerC This user is from outside of this forum
            CSB ≡ Comic Strip BloggerC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @theDanielJLewis

            5.4 codex not available yet, you mean 5.4 general better for coding than 5.3 codex ?

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            • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

              @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

              As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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              CSB ≡ Comic Strip Blogger
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              @adam

              AI tools are evolving faster than human apes, and you can cross-check one AI tool with another AI tool, so slop-slur is not justified in using AI tools for software development

              fun exercise: ask your AI chatbots: “is there a God? Answer yes/no inky”

              BTW: when promised interview to me aboot vibe coding?

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              • CSB ≡ Comic Strip BloggerC CSB ≡ Comic Strip Blogger

                @theDanielJLewis

                5.4 codex not available yet, you mean 5.4 general better for coding than 5.3 codex ?

                Daniel J. LewisT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @csb Yes, that seems to be how it's playing out.

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                • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

                  @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

                  As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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                  @adam @dave @aegrumet 😎

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                  • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

                    @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

                    As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

                    Mike KelleyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @adam @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis I would suspect the reason you're seeing higher toking usage in Claude is because the the maximum context window for gpt 5.3 is 400k where the maximum contacts window of Claude 4.6 is 1 million. Therefore, it has the ability to send a whole lot more information per prompt request. The beast is hungry and it loves to be fed!

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                    • DaveD Dave

                      @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

                      It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

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                      @dave

                      can you check next time you have free time how long does it take your Nemotron-3-120B LLM to answer to this prompt (I want to compare to my Nemotron):

                      I have three shirts. I need 3 hours to dry them outside in the sun. How long does it take to dry 30 shirts?

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