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  • Daniel J. LewisT Daniel J. Lewis

    @dave Cheap model, cheap outputs.

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    @theDanielJLewis @dave get thee to opus 4.6

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    • Andrew GrumetA Andrew Grumet

      @theDanielJLewis @dave get thee to opus 4.6

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      @aegrumet @dave Or even GPT-5.3-Codex (although 5.4 is better).

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      • Daniel J. LewisT Daniel J. Lewis

        @aegrumet @dave Or even GPT-5.3-Codex (although 5.4 is better).

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        @theDanielJLewis @dave opus 4.6 and gpt 5.4 have been a noticeable step up from previous.

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        • Andrew GrumetA Andrew Grumet

          @theDanielJLewis @dave opus 4.6 and gpt 5.4 have been a noticeable step up from previous.

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          @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

          It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

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          • DaveD Dave

            @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

            It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

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            @theDanielJLewis @aegrumet I could be wrong. It's just my observation based on what I've seen so far.

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            • DaveD Dave

              @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis Claude 4.6 is my daily driver. Just trying out opencode with a local model for comparison. A-B asking the Claude and Nemotron-3-120B to build the same thing side by side to compare.

              It feels like there is a gap between large models and truly giant models. The difference between a good 9B model and a 120B param model is very noticable. But to get to the next noticable jump in accuracy/tooling you have to go to a 1T or larger model.

              Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A This user is from outside of this forum
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              @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

              As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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              • Daniel J. LewisT Daniel J. Lewis

                @aegrumet @dave Or even GPT-5.3-Codex (although 5.4 is better).

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                @theDanielJLewis

                5.4 codex not available yet, you mean 5.4 general better for coding than 5.3 codex ?

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                • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

                  @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

                  As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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                  @adam

                  AI tools are evolving faster than human apes, and you can cross-check one AI tool with another AI tool, so slop-slur is not justified in using AI tools for software development

                  fun exercise: ask your AI chatbots: “is there a God? Answer yes/no inky”

                  BTW: when promised interview to me aboot vibe coding?

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                    @theDanielJLewis

                    5.4 codex not available yet, you mean 5.4 general better for coding than 5.3 codex ?

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                    @csb Yes, that seems to be how it's playing out.

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                    • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

                      @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

                      As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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                      @adam @dave @aegrumet 😎

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                      • Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:A Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:

                        @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis

                        As a sloperator, got 5.3 and Claude 4.6 have felt pretty equal. The difference in token cost however has been a factor 20x higher on Claude. Costs are calculated on using opencode's payment system.

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                        @adam @dave @aegrumet @theDanielJLewis I would suspect the reason you're seeing higher toking usage in Claude is because the the maximum context window for gpt 5.3 is 400k where the maximum contacts window of Claude 4.6 is 1 million. Therefore, it has the ability to send a whole lot more information per prompt request. The beast is hungry and it loves to be fed!

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