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Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

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  • CassandrichD Cassandrich

    @benroyce @vervain @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox What are you going to do with existing users who don't have credit cards? And can't get them? Or who have credit cards but whose safety might be put at risk by having their legal identity tied to their account and past writings?

    Yes, for capitalist services that are going to obey age verification mandates, they absolutely should be offering "charge my credit card" as an option. I would even pay a one-time $20+ fee for this, anything to be able to continue using the service without submitting to face scanning or ID.

    But non-capitalist things like Mastodon instances treating this as a harmless way to obey is NOT a good idea. It will exclude exactly the people we need to be including.

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    #93

    @benroyce @vervain @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox One solution to the ills of verify-by-card, but also a reason I don't think the powers that be will let verify-by-card persist, is that I could just make a credit card with a $0 limit and share the number publicly for everyone to use until the card gets canceled, then repeat or have someone else do the same, until everyone who needs to get verified has done it.

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    • CassandrichD Cassandrich

      @benroyce @vervain @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox What are you going to do with existing users who don't have credit cards? And can't get them? Or who have credit cards but whose safety might be put at risk by having their legal identity tied to their account and past writings?

      Yes, for capitalist services that are going to obey age verification mandates, they absolutely should be offering "charge my credit card" as an option. I would even pay a one-time $20+ fee for this, anything to be able to continue using the service without submitting to face scanning or ID.

      But non-capitalist things like Mastodon instances treating this as a harmless way to obey is NOT a good idea. It will exclude exactly the people we need to be including.

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      #94

      @dalias @vervain @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

      so you're advocating for donations, because you're not a fool, and you understand hosting services need to be paid

      and at the same time, you're castigating me for asking for credit cards

      work through the contradiction you just presented to me and get back to me

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      • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

        @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

        the problem isn't mastodon it's your govt

        if mastodon servers don't implement age verification in those jurisdictions that make it law, those servers get shut down by that govt

        so you're blaming the wrong entity

        are you really asking servers to face legal punishment and then get shut down anyway?

        don't get me wrong: be angry

        *at your govt*

        not mastodon

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        @benroyce
        I’d boil this down to, you can’t solve a social problem with technology. You can mitigate some of its effects but the underlying social parameters are still there. Nothing is going to save us from bad law except good votes.
        @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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        • Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)S Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)

          @benroyce
          I’d boil this down to, you can’t solve a social problem with technology. You can mitigate some of its effects but the underlying social parameters are still there. Nothing is going to save us from bad law except good votes.
          @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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          #96

          @suzannealdrich @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

          THANK YOU

          are you listening, toxic idealists?

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          • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

            @suzannealdrich @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

            THANK YOU

            are you listening, toxic idealists?

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            #97

            @benroyce
            Also, and I’ll repeat this for those at the back:
            Changing the system takes a lot of time and energy. There is no quick fix. The winner will always be the one that is more effective at networking and communication.
            @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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            • Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)S Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)

              @benroyce
              Also, and I’ll repeat this for those at the back:
              Changing the system takes a lot of time and energy. There is no quick fix. The winner will always be the one that is more effective at networking and communication.
              @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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              #98

              @suzannealdrich @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox and willing to get their hands dirty

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              • Dopes The FrogmanM Dopes The Frogman

                @suzannealdrich @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox and willing to get their hands dirty

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                #99

                @macacator @suzannealdrich @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                anyone who thinks we can just sing kumbaya and solve all of our problems is a fool

                the dirty path always also needs to exist, even just in reference to put fear in the fascist's heart and force them to listen

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                • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                  @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Compliance with fascist laws is fascism.

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                  #100

                  @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Anybody that wants to operate their business in a country has to abide by the laws of that country. It's why Proton has been subpoened and had to hand over logs. It's the whole reason Signal collects as little data as possible, so they don't have anything to give but can still obey court orders. The alternative is for them to just leave that country entirely and abandon users who live there.

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                  • Marcus AdamsG Marcus Adams

                    @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Anybody that wants to operate their business in a country has to abide by the laws of that country. It's why Proton has been subpoened and had to hand over logs. It's the whole reason Signal collects as little data as possible, so they don't have anything to give but can still obey court orders. The alternative is for them to just leave that country entirely and abandon users who live there.

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                    @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                    toxic idealists don't listen

                    they barge in, make impossible purity demands, then get angry and call us the enemy just because we live in reality

                    effective resistance is having a big heart. *and* having a brain. know when to fight. know when to scram if it's a suicide mission or ineffective

                    toxic idealists harm the left

                    they poison our convos with impotent anger and brittle perfectionism, stifling effective resistance and not offering shit

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                    • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                      @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                      toxic idealists don't listen

                      they barge in, make impossible purity demands, then get angry and call us the enemy just because we live in reality

                      effective resistance is having a big heart. *and* having a brain. know when to fight. know when to scram if it's a suicide mission or ineffective

                      toxic idealists harm the left

                      they poison our convos with impotent anger and brittle perfectionism, stifling effective resistance and not offering shit

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                      #102

                      @benroyce

                      somewhere along the line too many people forgot that you shouldn't let perfection get in the way of progress.

                      @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                      • maya_b πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦M maya_b πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                        @benroyce

                        somewhere along the line too many people forgot that you shouldn't let perfection get in the way of progress.

                        @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                        #103

                        @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                        it's so prevalent and so obvious it has to be a psyop from the right

                        of course some people are just that foolish

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                        • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                          @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          it's so prevalent and so obvious it has to be a psyop from the right

                          of course some people are just that foolish

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                          @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox It likely is, but the Left has done this before organicly in France, look at how big a deal Sartre, Boullivard, Camus once were and look at French left party enrollment since and look at the philosophers from France since, fighting with each other for smaller pieces of purity.

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                          • ScrimshawS Scrimshaw

                            @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox It likely is, but the Left has done this before organicly in France, look at how big a deal Sartre, Boullivard, Camus once were and look at French left party enrollment since and look at the philosophers from France since, fighting with each other for smaller pieces of purity.

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                            #105

                            @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                            the essential problem on the left

                            i didn't say with the left, because some of this infighting is achieved with agent provocateurs and right wingers cosplaying because it's so easy. but, yes, some of it is organic to the left

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                            • ScrimshawS Scrimshaw

                              @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox It likely is, but the Left has done this before organicly in France, look at how big a deal Sartre, Boullivard, Camus once were and look at French left party enrollment since and look at the philosophers from France since, fighting with each other for smaller pieces of purity.

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                              @Scrimshaw9 @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unite in hate and corruption; the left divides because of different ideas of the purity vote (which can never exist, it can only ever be β€œis this going in the right direction).

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                              • CarolynC Carolyn

                                @Scrimshaw9 @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unite in hate and corruption; the left divides because of different ideas of the purity vote (which can never exist, it can only ever be β€œis this going in the right direction).

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                                @CStamp @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                well you mean the left direction

                                🀭

                                (i'm just kidding you, i know what you mean. stupid english language)

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                                • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                                  @CStamp @Scrimshaw9 @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                  well you mean the left direction

                                  🀭

                                  (i'm just kidding you, i know what you mean. stupid english language)

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                                  @benroyce @Scrimshaw9 Ha! 😁@maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                                  • CarolynC Carolyn

                                    @Scrimshaw9 @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unite in hate and corruption; the left divides because of different ideas of the purity vote (which can never exist, it can only ever be β€œis this going in the right direction).

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                                    @CStamp @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unites bc it is a death cult and the left is in check because the left can't meme... i dont mean make dumb little funny pix w words, I mean they cant generate cultural shifting slogans bc they are frankly quite dumb. "Defund the police" and "Abolish ICE" have to be 2 of the dumbest pol marketing slogans ever. Saying dumb ish like that givez the other side a 2x4 to beat you with. Easy to call the left lawless

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                                    • ScrimshawS Scrimshaw

                                      @CStamp @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unites bc it is a death cult and the left is in check because the left can't meme... i dont mean make dumb little funny pix w words, I mean they cant generate cultural shifting slogans bc they are frankly quite dumb. "Defund the police" and "Abolish ICE" have to be 2 of the dumbest pol marketing slogans ever. Saying dumb ish like that givez the other side a 2x4 to beat you with. Easy to call the left lawless

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                                      @Scrimshaw9

                                      of course Kelly won't be pure enough, but answers all the "lawless" stuff and he's not Newsom.

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                                      The former Navy captain and astronaut says "we're in some seriously challenging times".

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                                      (www.bbc.com)

                                      Anyway, I'll be watching from Canada shaking my head more often that I'd like I suspect.

                                      @CStamp @benroyce @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

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                                      • ScrimshawS Scrimshaw

                                        @CStamp @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unites bc it is a death cult and the left is in check because the left can't meme... i dont mean make dumb little funny pix w words, I mean they cant generate cultural shifting slogans bc they are frankly quite dumb. "Defund the police" and "Abolish ICE" have to be 2 of the dumbest pol marketing slogans ever. Saying dumb ish like that givez the other side a 2x4 to beat you with. Easy to call the left lawless

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                                        @CStamp @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Gimme James Carville "It's the economy, stupid" ftw. The left or center or anyone besides the right needs guys that can meme like that again.

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                                        • ScrimshawS Scrimshaw

                                          @CStamp @benroyce @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox The right unites bc it is a death cult and the left is in check because the left can't meme... i dont mean make dumb little funny pix w words, I mean they cant generate cultural shifting slogans bc they are frankly quite dumb. "Defund the police" and "Abolish ICE" have to be 2 of the dumbest pol marketing slogans ever. Saying dumb ish like that givez the other side a 2x4 to beat you with. Easy to call the left lawless

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                                          @Scrimshaw9 @CStamp @maya_b @gerowen @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                          i understand "defund the police" means divert funds to mental healthcare and people without housing. anyone with a brain understands this

                                          but your average walnut brained american thinks it means no police and rampant crime. they conclude the left wants rampant crime. if they don't think that, right wing media certainly will manufacture lying outrage and make them think that

                                          so yeah, messaging is a problem on the left

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