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  • TaggartM Taggart

    What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

    UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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    @mttaggart The Wayback Machine has the article (though not the comments) for those interested: https://web.archive.org/web/20260213194851/https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/02/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name/

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    • TaggartM Taggart

      Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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      @mttaggart if the authors unilaterally did this, they're so fired.

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      • TaggartM Taggart

        Aaand the full comments thread from the original story: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name.1511649/

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        These were pulled too, but thank you again Wayback:

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        After a routine code rejection, an AI agent published a hit piece on someone by name

        One developer is struggling with the social implications of a drive-by AI character attack. See full article...

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        • SnoopJS SnoopJ

          @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart they have enough information already to justify immediately yanking the article, so "we'll tell you next week" scans to me as "we need to figure out the PR angle on this" more than "we need to find out what happened".

          Maybe their explanation will be a good one, but I'm not holding my breath.

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          @SnoopJ @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart I'm waiting to see what happens in a few days to judge. It's clear the quotes are fake and they acknowledged that, but I can see it taking a few days to identify *how* this happened, and how it made it through editorial. I'm worried though, and I don't know if their answer next week is going to satisfy me.

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          • MistyM Misty

            @SnoopJ @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart I'm waiting to see what happens in a few days to judge. It's clear the quotes are fake and they acknowledged that, but I can see it taking a few days to identify *how* this happened, and how it made it through editorial. I'm worried though, and I don't know if their answer next week is going to satisfy me.

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            @misty @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart yea, agreed.

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            • Epic NullE Epic Null

              @RealGene @mttaggart okay fine, if you successfully create massive fashist infrastructure, then yes, you can erase written works on a whim.

              It's still a hell of a lot harder than taking down a webpage.

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              RealGene ☣️
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              @Epic_Null @mttaggart

              > f you successfully create massive fashist infrastructure

              Such as Palantir...

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              • IcooIeyI IcooIey

                @mttaggart this is the weirdest story. Here is a link to SCOTT SHAMBAUGH’s blog explaining the whole thing with an update about the additional AI generated reporting. https://web.archive.org/web/20260214062635/https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/

                minzastroM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @IcooIey @mttaggart wild thing indeed. Gatekeeping is in fact not a bad thing at all, and it worked long before AI. Open source communities have their right to place guardrails and policies, and they are not obliged to accept any PR. If they say "place a comment every second line" you should comply. If they say "that is good entry level issue, don't fix it with automated tools" - don't fix it, and don't complain if you do and they reject you, AI or not.

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                • TaggartM Taggart

                  Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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                  #166

                  @mttaggart same Ars that let this article hit the front page years back?

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                  • Rusty ShacklefordR Rusty Shackleford

                    @dragonfrog @Gaelan

                    It should be cut & dry.

                    Restate your policy on AI generated content.
                    State you are doing an investigation.
                    Then move on.

                    This particular wording leaves room for excuses for the continued use of AI summarizers/ writing assistants.

                    I'm not saying to actually do anything over the weekend.

                    I'm aware of Condé Nas's internal policies when an article gets pulled from Ars, there's a formal investigation to avoid slandering the writer & chain of trust their work passed through.

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                    @rusty__shackleford @Gaelan sure they could answer the second of your questions right away. It read to me like you were saying they should answer all three right away, which I think isn't realistic. If that's not what you were getting at, fair enough - I just misread you.

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                    • TaggartM Taggart

                      These were pulled too, but thank you again Wayback:

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                      After a routine code rejection, an AI agent published a hit piece on someone by name

                      One developer is struggling with the social implications of a drive-by AI character attack. See full article...

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                      Ars OpenForum (web.archive.org)

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                      @mttaggart https://theforkiverse.com/@eob/116070882825907938

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                      • Rusty ShacklefordR Rusty Shackleford

                        @Gaelan
                        Strategic ambiguity is what this *appears* to be, it's the calculated vague speak that allows for plausible deniability that gets me.

                        Also, news cycles: Friday news dumps allow stories to die over the weekend. Pushing the response back isn't just about the holiday, it’s about waiting for the news cycle. They're betting that by Tuesday, the "outrage" will have lost its momentum, making vague statements easier to swallow.

                        I know they have internal processes for this, but not a good look.

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                        @rusty__shackleford to be fair, this is a piece with a dual byline. Unless either Benj or Kyle fesses up directly, it really will require some serious investigation to even try to figure out which one did it.

                        Then the one that DIDN'T do it, but also didn't catch it, gets to explain why that shit went out with their name on it.

                        As much as I want to hear that this was resolved firmly, decisively, and without waffling, a couple of business days really is not entirely unreasonable here.

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                        • TaggartM Taggart

                          UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                          @mttaggart oh man, i wish i could see the comments

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                          • chato.exeU chato.exe

                            @mttaggart oh man, i wish i could see the comments

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                            @umbu https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116070822568559995

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                            • TaggartM Taggart

                              What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                              UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                              Page not found 404 | Ars Technica

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                              @mttaggart is an AI agent responsible for the one down vote in that screenshot? 🤔😆

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