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  • IcooIeyI IcooIey

    @mttaggart this is the weirdest story. Here is a link to SCOTT SHAMBAUGH’s blog explaining the whole thing with an update about the additional AI generated reporting. https://web.archive.org/web/20260214062635/https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/

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    @IcooIey @mttaggart way deep in this article he says “more than likely there was no human telling the AI to do this.” I’m skeptical. More than likely? How so? Maybe he should have run down that possibility first? It would be so easy for whoever created that agent to hoax this whole thing for clicks.

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      Matt Griffin
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      #144

      @jalefkowit @mttaggart it's a huge betrayal on their part. I'm so angry right now.

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      • TaggartM Taggart

        What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

        UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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        @mttaggart I stopped going to [Big Publish] websites when the electrical conductor magazine site (they can pay me to mention their brands) started whinging about me blocking their animated ads which were so distracting I couldn’t read their articles without blocking them. It was obvious their goal wasn’t to publish news or informational articles, it’s to sell my attention to their actual customers, their advertisers.

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        • AndyA Andy

          @mttaggart sounds like a job for @404mediaco

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          Philippe Jadin
          wrote last edited by
          #146

          @andyinabox @mttaggart @404mediaco was going to mention 404 as well. Fascinating story... Full support to you. This is a crazy time we live in.

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          • TaggartM Taggart

            What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

            UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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            @mttaggart The layers of delusion and irony to all of this is just staggering. One Ai gets pissy, and another AI writes a delusional article about the pissy AI... What a world we live in...

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            • Tim FarleyK Tim Farley

              @IcooIey @mttaggart way deep in this article he says “more than likely there was no human telling the AI to do this.” I’m skeptical. More than likely? How so? Maybe he should have run down that possibility first? It would be so easy for whoever created that agent to hoax this whole thing for clicks.

              Tim FarleyK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #148

              @IcooIey @mttaggart I’m very disappointed in not only Ars, but also BoingBoing and other ostensible news outlets for spreading this story when none of them have managed to figure out who deployed the agent in the first place. Without that info this isn’t a story at all it’s just speculation on what AI might be capable of. Smells like a troll to me.

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              • TaggartM Taggart

                What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                Strider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽U This user is from outside of this forum
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                #149

                @mttaggart Ayyyy. I just cancelled my subscription. Not good.

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                • AliideA Aliide

                  @GerardThornley @theorangetheme @mttaggart yes! as well as the problems/biases inherent in the training material or in the ways that it's trained

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                  Gerard Thornley
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                  @aliide @theorangetheme @mttaggart right!? So the biases get embedded in their black box, and all they can say is "sorry, the computer says no", and no-one can question it because no-one really understands it.

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                  • Rusty ShacklefordR Rusty Shackleford

                    @Gaelan

                    Was AI used to generate this content? (Yes/No)

                    Does Ars have a strict "No-AI" policy for editorial content? (Yes/No)

                    If the answer to both is "Yes," how did the internal vetting process fail?

                    Regardless of a holiday, "I don't know what we'll be able to say" implies negotiation with the truth. For a publication built on facts, the only thing to "say" is the truth of what happened. The longer the silence, the more it looks like calibrating an excuse rather than admitting a failure.

                    Codey McCodefaceB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #151

                    @rusty__shackleford @Gaelan Give ‘em a break it’s the weekend - they have to wait til Monday to buy more tokens so they can generate an apology letter.

                    (Edit: typo)

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                    • RealGene ☣️R RealGene ☣️

                      @Epic_Null @mttaggart
                      Winston Smith's job in 1984 was to change newspaper stories to match the Party's version of the truth, and the original sent down the Memory Hole to be incinerated.

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                      #152

                      @RealGene @mttaggart okay fine, if you successfully create massive fashist infrastructure, then yes, you can erase written works on a whim.

                      It's still a hell of a lot harder than taking down a webpage.

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                      • Kiloku - Secretário do CaosK Kiloku - Secretário do Caos

                        @JizzelEtBass @mttaggart even if they *didn't* "instruct" the tool to do so, they're responsible for the text it generated, I'd say

                        William Canna-bassJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #153

                        @Kiloku @mttaggart #ThisRightHere
                        Yep, totally agree. If an aggressive dog bites someone with out warning, the owner is held liable. Same principle should apply here.

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                        • TaggartM Taggart

                          What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                          UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                          The Other BrookT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          The Other Brook
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                          @mttaggart Just wanted to note they did eventually take down the comments on the article, but only after Aurich edited his last one to say they might not be able to comment publicly on their investigation. Which is the absolutely possible choice Ars (and more likely Condé Nast) could make if they want to retain credibility on...well, anything, but specifically on their AI coverage.

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                          • Rusty ShacklefordR Rusty Shackleford

                            @Gaelan

                            Was AI used to generate this content? (Yes/No)

                            Does Ars have a strict "No-AI" policy for editorial content? (Yes/No)

                            If the answer to both is "Yes," how did the internal vetting process fail?

                            Regardless of a holiday, "I don't know what we'll be able to say" implies negotiation with the truth. For a publication built on facts, the only thing to "say" is the truth of what happened. The longer the silence, the more it looks like calibrating an excuse rather than admitting a failure.

                            dragonfrogD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            dragonfrog
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                            @rusty__shackleford @Gaelan yeah, all but the "do we have a policy against AI writing?" are questions that take time to investigate. In terms of the process failure, potentially quite a bit of time because you have to schedule interviews with many people. I'm curious how it happened too but i don't want people hauled in on a long weekend over it.

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                            • dragonfrogD dragonfrog

                              @rusty__shackleford @Gaelan yeah, all but the "do we have a policy against AI writing?" are questions that take time to investigate. In terms of the process failure, potentially quite a bit of time because you have to schedule interviews with many people. I'm curious how it happened too but i don't want people hauled in on a long weekend over it.

                              Rusty ShacklefordR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Rusty Shackleford
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                              @dragonfrog @Gaelan

                              It should be cut & dry.

                              Restate your policy on AI generated content.
                              State you are doing an investigation.
                              Then move on.

                              This particular wording leaves room for excuses for the continued use of AI summarizers/ writing assistants.

                              I'm not saying to actually do anything over the weekend.

                              I'm aware of Condé Nas's internal policies when an article gets pulled from Ars, there's a formal investigation to avoid slandering the writer & chain of trust their work passed through.

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                              • TaggartM Taggart

                                UPDATE: They pulled the story, but I had it up and had SingleFile in my browser, so: https://mttaggart.neocities.org/ars-whoopsie

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                                @mttaggart@infosec.exchange AI is giving itself Cyberpsychosis now, amazing

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                                • ArtemisA Artemis

                                  @tankgrrl @mttaggart I mean, I assume that's what an internal investigation was about?
                                  They probably want to properly call the author and ask them if they used AI or not, what were their sources, etc.
                                  I don't think it's fair to mock them for wanting to conclude an investigation.

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                                  SnoopJ
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                                  @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart they have enough information already to justify immediately yanking the article, so "we'll tell you next week" scans to me as "we need to figure out the PR angle on this" more than "we need to find out what happened".

                                  Maybe their explanation will be a good one, but I'm not holding my breath.

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                                  • TaggartM Taggart

                                    What's going on here? The matplotlib maintainer this story is about correctly notes that all the quotes from his post in the article are made up.

                                    UPDATE: Link was pulled; see below.

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                                    Frank van Puffelen
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                                    @mttaggart The Wayback Machine has the article (though not the comments) for those interested: https://web.archive.org/web/20260213194851/https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/02/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name/

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                                    • TaggartM Taggart

                                      Putting this here so all can see it. Ars forum thread where the pull and investigation are mentioned: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/journalistic-standards.1511650/

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                                      @mttaggart if the authors unilaterally did this, they're so fired.

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                                      • TaggartM Taggart

                                        Aaand the full comments thread from the original story: https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name.1511649/

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                                        These were pulled too, but thank you again Wayback:

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                                        One developer is struggling with the social implications of a drive-by AI character attack. See full article...

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                                        • SnoopJS SnoopJ

                                          @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart they have enough information already to justify immediately yanking the article, so "we'll tell you next week" scans to me as "we need to figure out the PR angle on this" more than "we need to find out what happened".

                                          Maybe their explanation will be a good one, but I'm not holding my breath.

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                                          @SnoopJ @art_codesmith @tankgrrl @mttaggart I'm waiting to see what happens in a few days to judge. It's clear the quotes are fake and they acknowledged that, but I can see it taking a few days to identify *how* this happened, and how it made it through editorial. I'm worried though, and I don't know if their answer next week is going to satisfy me.

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