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  • James CridlandJ James Cridland

    A sneak peek at a techy thing: how Apple Podcasts HLS streams work.

    Some may/will have better information than I do here; but I’m publishing this later today, and would, of course, welcome any feedback of the things I’ve got wrong. Feel free to quietly do that via email if it helps - editor@podnews.net will find me.

    Of note - advertisers *can* require their ads not to be skippable, according to the spec. But we don't know whether Apple Podcasts is going to honour that.

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    LittleFrankL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @james pah. What's wrong with an RSS pointing at an MP3 file?

    Oh yeah. Money

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    • James CridlandJ James Cridland

      A sneak peek at a techy thing: how Apple Podcasts HLS streams work.

      Some may/will have better information than I do here; but I’m publishing this later today, and would, of course, welcome any feedback of the things I’ve got wrong. Feel free to quietly do that via email if it helps - editor@podnews.net will find me.

      Of note - advertisers *can* require their ads not to be skippable, according to the spec. But we don't know whether Apple Podcasts is going to honour that.

      Link Preview Image
      Apple Podcasts HLS streams: how they work

      What are the tech details of how Apple Podcasts new HLS video works? Here's what we know so far.

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      Oscar MerryM This user is from outside of this forum
      Oscar MerryM This user is from outside of this forum
      Oscar Merry
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      @james

      "Theoretically, though, this does mean that the same HLS feed should work if you were to put it into an alternateEnclosure for other podcast apps, and should also work just fine on Android or other devices. There’s nothing proprietary here - just a carefully constructed HLS master playlist. And that’s good news for all of us."

      Great to hear!

      At Fountain we have many podcasters publishing HLS video with every episode. @james any thoughts on the best way to contact Apple?

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      • James CridlandJ James Cridland

        A sneak peek at a techy thing: how Apple Podcasts HLS streams work.

        Some may/will have better information than I do here; but I’m publishing this later today, and would, of course, welcome any feedback of the things I’ve got wrong. Feel free to quietly do that via email if it helps - editor@podnews.net will find me.

        Of note - advertisers *can* require their ads not to be skippable, according to the spec. But we don't know whether Apple Podcasts is going to honour that.

        Link Preview Image
        Apple Podcasts HLS streams: how they work

        What are the tech details of how Apple Podcasts new HLS video works? Here's what we know so far.

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        Simon ElveryS This user is from outside of this forum
        Simon ElveryS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @james how many of the apparent 400k are watching 3D podcasts in a headset? This is not the future I want

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        • Oscar MerryM Oscar Merry

          @james

          "Theoretically, though, this does mean that the same HLS feed should work if you were to put it into an alternateEnclosure for other podcast apps, and should also work just fine on Android or other devices. There’s nothing proprietary here - just a carefully constructed HLS master playlist. And that’s good news for all of us."

          Great to hear!

          At Fountain we have many podcasters publishing HLS video with every episode. @james any thoughts on the best way to contact Apple?

          James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
          James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
          James Cridland
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          @merryoscar You have mail!

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          • James CridlandJ James Cridland

            @merryoscar You have mail!

            Oscar MerryM This user is from outside of this forum
            Oscar MerryM This user is from outside of this forum
            Oscar Merry
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            @james thank you! 🙏

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            • James CridlandJ James Cridland

              A sneak peek at a techy thing: how Apple Podcasts HLS streams work.

              Some may/will have better information than I do here; but I’m publishing this later today, and would, of course, welcome any feedback of the things I’ve got wrong. Feel free to quietly do that via email if it helps - editor@podnews.net will find me.

              Of note - advertisers *can* require their ads not to be skippable, according to the spec. But we don't know whether Apple Podcasts is going to honour that.

              Link Preview Image
              Apple Podcasts HLS streams: how they work

              What are the tech details of how Apple Podcasts new HLS video works? Here's what we know so far.

              favicon

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              Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂S This user is from outside of this forum
              Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂S This user is from outside of this forum
              Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
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              @james no shippable ads would be a app breaker for me if implemented and adhered to by Apple.

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              • James CridlandJ James Cridland

                A sneak peek at a techy thing: how Apple Podcasts HLS streams work.

                Some may/will have better information than I do here; but I’m publishing this later today, and would, of course, welcome any feedback of the things I’ve got wrong. Feel free to quietly do that via email if it helps - editor@podnews.net will find me.

                Of note - advertisers *can* require their ads not to be skippable, according to the spec. But we don't know whether Apple Podcasts is going to honour that.

                Link Preview Image
                Apple Podcasts HLS streams: how they work

                What are the tech details of how Apple Podcasts new HLS video works? Here's what we know so far.

                favicon

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                John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
                John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @james looks pretty good - just missing a link to your source!

                John Spurlock (@js@podcastindex.social)

                Curious what resolutions/codecs are being used by the new HLS video podcasts in Apple Podcasts? So was I:

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                • John SpurlockJ John Spurlock

                  @james looks pretty good - just missing a link to your source!

                  John Spurlock (@js@podcastindex.social)

                  Curious what resolutions/codecs are being used by the new HLS video podcasts in Apple Podcasts? So was I:

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                  James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @js oops! Sorry

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                  • James CridlandJ James Cridland

                    @js oops! Sorry

                    John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @james no worries, but I just rechecked the story again today and still don't see a link to your source

                    links are free! and I'd appreciate a hat tip for providing the meat of that story

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                    • John SpurlockJ John Spurlock

                      @james no worries, but I just rechecked the story again today and still don't see a link to your source

                      links are free! and I'd appreciate a hat tip for providing the meat of that story

                      James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      James CridlandJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @js I've added a link. You didn't provide "the meat of that story", though - you provided resolutions and iframe confirmation (which is specified in the docs anyway). Everything else in that piece is my own research; I asked you a few specific questions over Signal and you ignored them, so 🤷

                      That piece was also next to one shilling OP3 (for the sixth time in 2026), along with Podnews's monthly financial support - so I think the hat tip balance is still quite positive in my favour... but shout me out publicly if you like

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                      • James CridlandJ James Cridland

                        @js I've added a link. You didn't provide "the meat of that story", though - you provided resolutions and iframe confirmation (which is specified in the docs anyway). Everything else in that piece is my own research; I asked you a few specific questions over Signal and you ignored them, so 🤷

                        That piece was also next to one shilling OP3 (for the sixth time in 2026), along with Podnews's monthly financial support - so I think the hat tip balance is still quite positive in my favour... but shout me out publicly if you like

                        John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John SpurlockJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @james thanks!

                        Definitely appreciate the mentions in Podnews, it would be nice to figure out how to find one or two named OP3 sponsors - haven't had a new ones for quite a while, but I also am not spending time reaching out.

                        Right now sponsorship is more or less equivalent to the costs, valuing my time at zero. Which is fine, it's not meant to be a money making venture, but not necessarily robust to any future wild growth (which would also be nice).

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