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The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years.

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  • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

    Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

    Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

    Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

    What do you think?

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    gypsyveganG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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    • gypsyveganG gypsyvegan

      @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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      The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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      Ooze 𓁟O This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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      • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

        The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

        - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
        - Potential loss of national sovereignty
        - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

        Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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        @gcluley So, that's why Trumpy is grumpy with Switzerland? Dissing his bosses.

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        • Ooze 𓁟O Ooze 𓁟

          @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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          @Ooze @gypsyvegan @gcluley
          Greetings stranger.
          Did you know Australia has been a US vassal for the past half century?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

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          • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

            The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

            - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
            - Potential loss of national sovereignty
            - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

            Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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            @gcluley there never was a contract. They never signed a contract with Palantir, so there’s nothing to end.

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            • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

              Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

              Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

              Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

              What do you think?

              2/2

              BernaBB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gcluley I think, you’re right.

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                @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley

                I Hope so.

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                • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                  The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                  - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                  - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                  - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                  Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                  Sam VinesS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @gcluley I wish the British government would take heed here!

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                  • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                    The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                    - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                    - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                    - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                    Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                    Xavier «X» Santolaria :verified_paw: :donor:
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                    @gcluley Thanks - It was 2 months ago, and for some reason I had missed it 😅

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                    • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                      Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                      Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                      Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                      What do you think?

                      2/2

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                      @gcluley „Don‘t think twice, it’s all-right!”

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                      • gypsyveganG gypsyvegan

                        @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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                        Peter Thiel's New Model Army

                        The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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                        (substack.com)

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                        @gypsyvegan @gcluley
                        See, it is the advent of this sort of desperately poor judgement that leads folk to say Starmer is a crap PM. I’m not sure he has any fire in his belly. He seems to do as he’s told by which ever swivel-eyed autocrat he thinks he trusts. McSweeney and Steeting come to mind for some reason.

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                        • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                          The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                          - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                          - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                          - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                          Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                          @gcluley Can we please also do this in Australia.....

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                          • Steve G0LFPG Steve G0LFP

                            @gcluley

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                            @g0lfp @gcluley

                            The hand above the table should also be passing money. The contracts/agreements are not secrets.

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                              @g0lfp @gcluley

                              Thank you. That was pointless.

                              My point remains, except I'd clarify that the UK is deliberately paying Palantir to abuse our data in the alleged hope that "the UK" can share any profits Palantir makes from using it; rather than Palantir having to pay for access.

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                              • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                                The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                                - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                                - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                                - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                                Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                                @gcluley And for some customers: Dependence on foreign specialists in everyday operations. In a DW documentary about Palantir, a German police official points to an empty office and proudly explains that the Palantir workers commute from several countries, flying in on Mondays, heading home Fridays.

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