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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

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  • Flaming CheetoP Flaming Cheeto

    @benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata it would take a magical level of re-observation, but a fair chunk of covid, accidents, and others could be reclassified as "recklessness".

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    @PizzaDemon @benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

    I'm afraid stupidity doesn't count as suicide. It must be your wish to die not the result of your wired beliefs.

    About the homicide I could agree.

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    • Deus Figendi.jwdD Deus Figendi.jwd

      @PizzaDemon @benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

      I'm afraid stupidity doesn't count as suicide. It must be your wish to die not the result of your wired beliefs.

      About the homicide I could agree.

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      @deusfigendi @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

      true

      our awareness of their stupid choices does not mean they are aware

      thank you for the correction

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        @ourworldindata @infobeautiful #BrokenMedia
        #MediaNotYourFriend

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          @infobeautiful diabetes is that low? Damn, that's impressive for the worst food on earth.
          Jokes aside they talk that much about homicide but how many times is it to ban guns?

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          • Embrace Civil DisobedienceP Embrace Civil Disobedience

            @raymaccarthy @infobeautiful @ourworldindata If you're in Russia, it's from falling out of windows.

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            Occasionally Russians abroad fall out of windows.

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              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
              How many deaths 2025 are caused by diseases for which vaccines exist?

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                @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                How very clever. You are comparing apples to herrings.

                If somebody dies from illness in their own or hospital bed, it very seldom is news. Usually no need to be.

                If somebody is killed in a terrorism act or murdered, it normally is news. And for a reason.

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                • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                  @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                  i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide

                  people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them

                  and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died

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                  @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Same argument could be made for the other diseases listed too. How much heart disease is caused by corporations insisting on a "right" to push cheap, addictive, harmful foods? Or by insurance companies refusing to pay for preventative care? How much of that cancer is caused by the obscene profits made by dumping carcinogens into our environment? How many of those strokes are...actually I dunno enough about the causes of that one...but I'm still pretty sure the billionaires have *something* to do with it! lol

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                  • SlightlyCyberpunkA SlightlyCyberpunk

                    @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Same argument could be made for the other diseases listed too. How much heart disease is caused by corporations insisting on a "right" to push cheap, addictive, harmful foods? Or by insurance companies refusing to pay for preventative care? How much of that cancer is caused by the obscene profits made by dumping carcinogens into our environment? How many of those strokes are...actually I dunno enough about the causes of that one...but I'm still pretty sure the billionaires have *something* to do with it! lol

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                    @admin @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                    strokes are high blood pressure so same as heart disease

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                      @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                      In J-School, first-year students learn the definition of news with the difference between the 'Dog bites man' and 'Man bites dog' headlines. The above is also a great representation. The uninitiated would confuse newsworthiness with perception of importance, as evidenced by the conspiracists (U.S. folks?) in this commentary.

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                        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata I would love to see a similar graphic designed to add one or more comparison countries. E.g., if Canada was added the rates of Heart disease and cancer are probably similar to US, and probably equally ignored in media...

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                          This is why I always tell people to follow the data, not the headlines

                          Media optimizes for clicks and emotional reactions. Reality optimizes for... reality

                          The gap between what we THINK kills people and what ACTUALLY kills people explains so much about how we allocate resources, funding, and attention as a society

                          Heart disease quietly takes out more people than anything on the front page, but it does not generate engagement so it stays invisible

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                            @mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                            killing grandma for the orange god

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                            @benroyce
                            In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
                            Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

                            @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                            • Matthew LoxtonM Matthew Loxton

                              @benroyce
                              In one specific and very real case that I know personally, killing Grandpa.
                              Which also led to a spiral in Grandma, and her death a year later.

                              @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                              @mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata πŸ˜”

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