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The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years.

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  • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

    Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

    Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

    Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

    What do you think?

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    AgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @gcluley Palantir? Steer well clear.

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    • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

      Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

      Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

      Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

      What do you think?

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      Steve G0LFPG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gcluley

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      • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

        Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

        Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

        Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

        What do you think?

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        Sue Briccay :flag_asexual:E This user is from outside of this forum
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        @gcluley

        What do I think?

        I think it's wise to follow the money:

        Peter Thiel and Larry Ellison are two of the biggest donors to the Tony Blair Institute, the grifting machine that is controlling the 'Labour' government.

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        • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

          The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

          - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
          - Potential loss of national sovereignty
          - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

          Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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          @gcluley@mastodon.green

          - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
          I don't know that Theil particularly cares about America, at least not its government. He's a neo-fuedalist. His fuckery is more towards advancing those aspirations than specifically providing benefit to the US government. Meaning, I think the bigger risk is less the US IC, specifically, than that Theil would happily sell one country's information to another "for the right price" if it advanced his overarching neo-feudalist goals.

          ...which is to say, if China or India were to offer him a neo-feudalist paradise within their borders in exchange for any given country's information — even the US's — he'd sell the target countries out in a heartbeat.

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          • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

            Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

            Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

            Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

            What do you think?

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            Ian HI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @gcluley In the words of The Sisters of Mercy, "It's a small world, and it smells funny".

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            • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

              The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

              - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
              - Potential loss of national sovereignty
              - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

              Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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              PonygirlP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gcluley Bravo!! 👏

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              • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                Steve DoweS This user is from outside of this forum
                Steve DoweS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @gcluley my local NHS "Trust" has signed one of those contracts with Palatir. I'm genuinely at a loss as to what healthcare option there is, if I don't want my subject data with them.

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                • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                  Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                  Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                  Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                  What do you think?

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                  GeoffaireyG This user is from outside of this forum
                  GeoffaireyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @gcluley While you should never rely on another entity's decision, if other companies/countries are publicly rejecting vendors then it should raise red flags

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                  • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                    Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                    Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                    Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                    What do you think?

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                    LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @gcluley UK was always an US slave that obey it's master.

                    And now they don't have EU tie, they return to their Full slave yes yes decision.

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                    • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                      The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                      - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                      - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                      - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                      Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                      BeldarakB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gcluley

                      Not wanting to associate with literal nazis should be in the list of reasons

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                        @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley

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                        The wealthy are determined to fry both democracy itself, along with the planet.

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                        • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                          Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                          Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                          Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                          What do you think?

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                          railmeatR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @gcluley

                          The NHS using Palantir is scary. At least it would scare me if I lived in the UK.

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                          • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                            Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                            Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                            Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                            What do you think?

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                            gypsyveganG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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                            The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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                            • gypsyveganG gypsyvegan

                              @gcluley Carole Cadwalladr has been ringing this alarm for years, hopefully more will take up the task

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                              The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster

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                              @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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                              • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                                The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                                - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                                - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                                - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                                Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                                @gcluley So, that's why Trumpy is grumpy with Switzerland? Dissing his bosses.

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                                • Ooze 𓁟O Ooze 𓁟

                                  @gypsyvegan @gcluley "If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security." This applies just as much for us here in Australia.

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                                  @Ooze @gypsyvegan @gcluley
                                  Greetings stranger.
                                  Did you know Australia has been a US vassal for the past half century?
                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

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                                  • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                                    The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                                    - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                                    - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                                    - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                                    Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                                    @gcluley there never was a contract. They never signed a contract with Palantir, so there’s nothing to end.

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                                    • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                                      Meanwhile, the UK has signed contracts worth over £800 million with Palantir for NHS and Ministry of Defence systems. British MPs are now asking awkward questions about why their due diligence has reached such a different conclusion.

                                      Switzerland chose sovereignty over convenience. They chose not to risk using Palantir.

                                      Other countries should be asking themselves: if Switzerland deemed these risks unacceptable, what are we missing?

                                      What do you think?

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                                      BernaBB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @gcluley I think, you’re right.

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                                        @ParadeGrotesque @gcluley

                                        I Hope so.

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                                        • Graham CluleyG Graham Cluley

                                          The Swiss government has ended its contract with American analytics company Palantir, after federal agencies in the country rejected Palantir at least nine times over seven years. The reason? Security concerns that should make other countries think carefully:

                                          - Risk of US intelligence gaining access to sensitive data
                                          - Potential loss of national sovereignty
                                          - Dependence upon foreign specialists in crisis situations

                                          Swiss authorities won't touch their software with a bargepole.

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                                          Sam VinesS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @gcluley I wish the British government would take heed here!

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