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Wallet-hosted value metadata URLs makes anything other than lightning impossible.

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  • E Eric P

    @alecksgates The apps are hosting this metadata service, but there's no reason why it couldn't be moved to the podcaster host and pointed to in the feed with your metaBoost tag.

    That would work well if you're the main podcaster, but how would guests and musicians know where to find the info?

    Musicians have their music played on many different music shows and podcasts. They would need some way to collect and aggregate that data.

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    @ericpp

    Remote items make building a tool for that rather trivial if a music host wants to provide that functionality.

    They still get paid either way.

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      @ericpp

      Remote items make building a tool for that rather trivial if a music host wants to provide that functionality.

      They still get paid either way.

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      @alecksgates The comments are honestly more important than the payments for the artists. They like to know that people are listening and enjoying their music.

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      • E Eric P

        @alecksgates The comments are honestly more important than the payments for the artists. They like to know that people are listening and enjoying their music.

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        @ericpp

        Well, the right answer to comments is to use a comment system. We already have that.

        <podcast:socialInteract>

        I can't help that we abused payments for comments up to this point. I've said this from the beginning.

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        • Sir Alecks GatesA Sir Alecks Gates

          @ericpp

          Well, the right answer to comments is to use a comment system. We already have that.

          <podcast:socialInteract>

          I can't help that we abused payments for comments up to this point. I've said this from the beginning.

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          @alecksgates Nostr sort of got that right by having the payment sent to the wallet and the metadata sent back to Nostr. They still comingle the two in part of the LNURL process though.

          It's also easier to do that with a social network where you can look up people in a social graph and send them a message/data.

          We don't really have an equivalent other than the socialInteract tag. Those can change over time and vary across feeds.

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          • E Eric P

            @alecksgates Nostr sort of got that right by having the payment sent to the wallet and the metadata sent back to Nostr. They still comingle the two in part of the LNURL process though.

            It's also easier to do that with a social network where you can look up people in a social graph and send them a message/data.

            We don't really have an equivalent other than the socialInteract tag. Those can change over time and vary across feeds.

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            @alecksgates But I guess we do have semi-stable identifiers in the form of Lightning wallets. That's probably why we've abused it for this manner.

            The Lightning wallet is our social network.

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            • E Eric P

              @alecksgates But I guess we do have semi-stable identifiers in the form of Lightning wallets. That's probably why we've abused it for this manner.

              The Lightning wallet is our social network.

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              @ericpp Speak for yourself. I'm writing to you via Mastodon.

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              • Sir Alecks GatesA Sir Alecks Gates

                @ericpp Speak for yourself. I'm writing to you via Mastodon.

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                @alecksgates I mean, it's not the only one.

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                • DaveD Dave

                  @alecksgates @ericpp I think it's easily solved with your <podcast:metaboost> specified API receiver. If that tag appears, the app knows to also push the boost metadata back out to the podcaster's specified API.

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                  @ericpp @dave @alecksgates I didn’t know about the metaboost tag. Seems like exactly what we’d need to support LNURL without losing boost message data.

                  Boost message data should probably be pulled out of the keysend implementations anyway since it’s so restrictive.

                  Podverse might be open to hosting a metaboost API as well. I don’t know how we’d manage the spam and abuse problems though…Alecks if you have ideas and would ever be up to talking about them I’d appreciate it.

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                    @alecksgates @ericpp I think it's easily solved with your <podcast:metaboost> specified API receiver. If that tag appears, the app knows to also push the boost metadata back out to the podcaster's specified API.

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                    @dave

                    for a moment I thought you sold out to Meta (formerly known as Facebook)

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                      @dave

                      for a moment I thought you sold out to Meta (formerly known as Facebook)

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                      @csb @dave sold out to Pedocoin... It's baked into PC 2.0... Should've made payments more flexible... Now you're tired to a payment system that was almost certainly the product of an intelligence agency...

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                      • Black Sir bigl0af of the BLAZA Black Sir bigl0af of the BLAZ

                        @csb @dave sold out to Pedocoin... It's baked into PC 2.0... Should've made payments more flexible... Now you're tired to a payment system that was almost certainly the product of an intelligence agency...

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                        @admin @csb The <podcast:value> tag can hold any payment information. It isn't tied to any particular one.

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